Minifridge

Wed Aug 25 04:26:59 UTC 2010

So, not to hijack your thread, but do you really have SRM v5.6-3 on a PC164?

heviarti at puresimplicity.net wrote:
>   Are you BIA, Jon?  Window Rock puts you on the Res as much as Fort Hall does.  I used to work with a gal from off Fort Hall. Dunno where she is now.
>    My knowledge of the Big Res is from a less intimate place:  The works of Tony Hillerman and to a lesser degree Clyde Kluckhorn... Which has left me on the search for a picture of a haypress that he described in one of his books.
>    Yeah, I wrote the Enhanced Sardine Free.  It kinda fell on it's face without contributorship from people on some of the other architectures. Someone once told me they didn't want to contribute because of license. I don't know why they were so angry... It's the License right out of the Howto-Howto.  Maybe they oughtta rewrite the Howto-Howto with a better license section.
>    I also moved from where I lived, and didn't have room for my big alpha (predator) while I was floorcrashing.  My AXPPCI33 (dargo) was there, but kinda hurting, My decstation 3000 was without cables, and I didn't have my 400 (semirhage) yet.
>    I have been offered some media for an OS that'll read the disks on my minifridge, I just need some more sleds so I can find disks and install. I do have a 23 gig drive I was banking on (a Seagate Elite) but after less than an hour of operation it's toast.  I'm planning on taking all my failed Seagates (SCSI, every one), boxing 'em up, and sending 'em to Seagate with a message about possible orifices in which to insert their failure-prone disks. My biggest fear is the shipping, I guarantee I have fifty pounds if I have an ounce.
>    I went to HP when they were demoing the Itanium (and it failed). I still have the 32 meg thumb drive they gave everyone. The highlight of the day was when me an another guy threw questions at 'em they couldn't answer about the future of the arch for people who needed Alpha and not the bad joke that is Itanium.
>   It was seven years after learning about 'em that I got my first Alpha. My goal now is a Superfridge with at least 8 processors. That'll prolly come along about the same time as the SGI 4D440 GT.*SIGH*
>    I wish I could contribute more to the community, but I can't code.  I have several things in mind, but I'm not good enough to do 'em. Like get the Slack 10 that is on Semirhage finished and working... Or get fsv to work again, and then work on AXP.
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
> From:  "Dialup Jon Norstog"<thursday at allidaho.com>
> Subj:  Re: Minifridge
> Date:  Mon Aug 23, 2010 19:24
> Size:  4K
> To:  Linux on Alpha processors<axp-list at redhat.com>
>
>
> Well, Hevi,
>
> my notes on hacking C2 passwords are down in Window Rock.  Where I lived and
> worked many years.  Now I am at Fort Hall.  GIS means geographic information
> system, originally a set of network topology and data base programs running
> under a shell called ARC.
>
> The Alpha was the first box that would ru the topological operations fast
> enough to preclude a cup of coffee between the time you hit return and the
> time the command finished executing.
>
> jn
>
> ---------- Original Message -----------
> From:<heviarti at puresimplicity.net>
> To: Linux on Alpha processors<axp-list at redhat.com>
> Sent: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 12:14:00 -0600
> Subject: Re: Minifridge
>
>> You're in Idaho, how'd you end up with a machine off a Navajo
>> reservation? I'm in Emmett, btw. What is GIS, anyhow?  I'm pretty
>> sure I've got some kind of Ford dealership database on this one. If
>> I can get it to work I might use it to keep track of saw parts and
>> tractor parts, since I've never been able to get SQL to do anything.
>>
>>    Do look at your notes. Right now I'm also ro. I'm not sure if
>> mount -o remount rw / is the right syntax for mount on that flavor.
>>
>>    Also p* (enter) at a prompt results in passwd: not found   which
>> is wierd seeing as I can't find a binary called passwd anywhere.
>>
>>    My biggest two things right now are to find a way to paginate, get
>> / rw, and determine the OS version.
>>
>>   I also want to find some more sleds for this machine, and install
>> more disks.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>>
>> From:  "Dialup Jon Norstog"<thursday at allidaho.com>
>> Subj:  Re: Minifridge
>> Date:  Mon Aug 23, 2010 7:39
>> Size:  2K
>> To:  Linux on Alpha processors<axp-list at redhat.com>
>>
>> Hevi, list:
>>
>> It was 10 years ago I had to recover a GIS installation with about
>> $200,000 worth of data on it, on a DEC 3000/600 that had been stolen,
>>   trashed and abandoned in a trailer in Tuba City AZ.  The machine
>> was full of red sand and had a resident black widow.  It was C-2
>> secure.  It took me months to crack it, but with some help from
>> former DEC guys in Albuquerque, I got it.  It was pretty simple IIRC.
>>
>> Let me check my notes, if I still have them, and get back to you on
>> that one.
>>
>> jn
>>
>> ---------- Original Message -----------
>> From: "Maciej W. Rozycki"<macro at linux-mips.org>
>> To: Linux on Alpha processors<axp-list at redhat.com>
>> Sent: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 02:33:33 +0100 (BST)
>> Subject: Re: Minifridge
>>
>>> On Sun, 22 Aug 2010, heviarti at puresimplicity.net wrote:
>>>
>>>> I'm used to beating my head on a keyboard, not pointee clickee.
>>>
>>>   You should be able to manage editing "/etc/passwd", etc. with `mv',
>>> `cat', etc. then. ;)
>>>
>>>> When I mounted /usr, the whole thing barfed and crashed. I think it may
>>>> need something else running before I can mount /usr... Which is advfs,
>>>> BTW.
>>>
>>>   OK, so that's definitely a Digital Unix of some flavour.  Try
>>> `/sbin/bcheckrc' as someone already suggested.  Note that ${PATH} is
>>> unlikely to include /sbin in the single-user mode shell which is
>>> less than useful -- I find it silly, but that's required for Bourne
>>> shell for some standard conformance I would guess.
>>>
>>>> Like I said, I ain't got uname, but even worse I have no passwd and no
>>>> paginator (you know, more?).
>>>
>>>   Yes, it is like this with DU -- the root filesystem (if separate --
>>> that's what you need to check "/etc/fstab" for) is pretty minimal.
>>>   You need to get the system to mount /usr before you proceed.
>>>
>>>   Note that if the system's got C2 security enabled then password
>>> information is managed in a database outside "/etc/passwd" and
>>> "/etc/shadow" and you'll have to poke at that database to get the
>>> root password reset.  After over 10 years I don't remember the
>>> details anymore and chances people here may not know them either as
>>> this is considerably away from how Linux does things.
>>>
>>>   I suggest you check with a DU/Tru64 mailing list indeed or try
>>> system documentation available online.  It should be much better
>>> than the bits around the SRM console which I always found a little
>>> bit obscure and scattered around.
>>>
>>>   Good luck!
>>>
>>>    Maciej
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