Installation attempt doesn't resembledocumentedprocedure...HELP PLEASE.

hank hank at
Tue May 18 15:45:12 UTC 2004

is that what that flashing bar swap thingy is on the screen?
my mom was telling me the thing flashes and sits here
Don't judge me because I'm blind. Judge me by what's inside. if you judge me
because I am blind, then it is you who is blind.
"time is the fire in which we burn," Tollian Soran.
"grudges aren't worth holding--One who holds them shows his self-weakness."
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Email: Same as MSN.
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Mattioli" <jmattioli at>
To: "'Linux for blind general discussion'" <blinux-list at>
Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2004 8:14 AM
Subject: RE: Installation attempt doesn't resembledocumentedprocedure...HELP

> Lee, Janina and others:
> Lee wrote:
> Do you remember where the HowTo came from?
> Yes, it came from a pointer on the linux-speakup home page.
> Lee wrote:
> Perhaps if it's anything Janina has control over she can get rid
> of the obsolete one.
> Apparently it is something she has control over and she has
> already changed the URL.  Seems she updated the web site on Sunday.
> Thanks for that update Janina.
> Lee wrote:
> If the entire Fedora distribution came from pointers in that old
> HowTo, though, it should be internally consistent so presumably isn't
> the cause of the swap partition hang(???)
> I downloaded the yarrow images from the speakup site so I agree
> with you that it shouldn't have mattered.  I also have already reread
> the howto.  The images on the web site have changed ... They're now
> dated 5/17/2004 which is obviously later than any images I could have
> downloaded last week.  So I'm in the process of downloading again and
> I'll reburn and retest.  Seems that without creating the initrd I failed
> to include speakup in my *real* bootable system.  That's annoying, but
> not catastrophic.  I verified the hang where linux attempted to enable
> the swap space using the optacon.  I wonder if firstboot is attempting
> to do something graphical but it isn't happening due to something weird
> with my video card.  I don't think this is the case because I tried
> switching consoles and that seemed to do something though all I could
> see on the screen was a blinking cursor and I couldn't get a login
> prompt.  That behavior seems to differ from the description of how bad
> life will be if firstboot runs that's in the installation hoto which
> reads, "Unfortunately, FirstBoot launches before any consoles launch, so
> there is absolutely nothing you can do as a blind user once FirstBoot is
> running either to work with FirstBoot or to get out of it."
> Lee wrote:
> Note also that the first IDE hard disk is HDA; I assume HAD was
> just a typo.
> Hmm, it wasn't a typo, it was an outlooko (if that's the proper
> term for what happens when you type hda and Microsoft, thinking they
> know best, decides you made a typo so they rearrange the letters to had
> (which is a real word even if it isn't a valid unix device <grin>.
> Janina wrote:
> You really should take Bill Acker up on his offer of tech
> support by telephone--just like the HOWTO says. Let's get you working.
> Perhaps I will, but I'd like to make at least one more attempt
> to get this right before bugging the guy.  If the errors are mine, due
> to reading wrong documents or something I can fix easily on my own, I'd
> rather save the tech support for when I have real problems.  For
> instance, I noticed the installaiton howto not only doesn't talk about
> how to get gnopernicus working, but doesn't point one in a direction
> where such information is available.  If I can't find such information,
> I'll be bugging people for help again <grin>.
> John
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