Questions about installing Gnopernicus.

Kenny Hitt kenny at
Thu Oct 14 04:44:43 UTC 2004

Hi.  I haven't had much luck using Java apps with Gnopernicus.
Gnopernicus also uses the java access bridge to get it's i nfo from
Java.  I'm not a programmer, but after listening to a friend's problems
with Windows screen readers and Java apps, I noticed he seemed to have
the same problems I've seen.  That would lead me to believe the problems
with access to Java apps using swing are either in the app or the java
access bridge.  I think you should try the latest Gnopernicus and java
access bridge for Gnome, in case I'm wrong.  I've seen posts from people
on the gnome-accessibility list who say they have good luck with it, but
I am not able to duplicate their results.  Like a lot of my friends who
use Linux full time, I don't expect much from gnopernicus any time soon.
My Gnopernicus 0.8.4 under Gnome 2.6 with all Debian packages is
amazingly stable, but I don't have java installed on it.  The box with
java access installed is now my sighted girl friend's work station.
She doesn't use any of the accessibility features in Gnome.  I am
spending my time on other projects lately where I can get results.  I
don't have a really good atitude toward the Gnopernicus and gnome
accessibility developers any more, so you should really try things for your self.
At least for now, console access is the best access to Linux.
I hope you can get Gnopernicus to work for you with this app.  If you
get the chance, please post your results to this list so others can

Good luck.
On Wed, Oct 13, 2004 at 11:22:55AM -0700, Darrell Shandrow wrote:
> Hi Kenny,
> What is your experience with access to Java applications through
> Gnopernicus?  I won't be needing to use Gnopernicus for browsing, e-mail or
> any other standard applications.  Rather, I need to use a customized Sun
> Java application which is currently inaccessible to a very well-known screen
> reader on the Windows platform, despite the fact that the application was
> written using Swing classes and version 1.4.2 of the Sun JDK.  Access to
> this application is required.  It is an application used to manage one or
> more network intrusion prevention devices.
>   We're going to start this installation process tomorrow.  I hope this
> turns out to be worth all the trouble.  I'm afraid I'm going to lose my job
> over this.
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Kenny Hitt" <kenny at>
> To: "Linux for blind general discussion" <blinux-list at>
> Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2004 10:35 AM
> Subject: Re: Questions about installing Gnopernicus.
> > Hi.  I don't know what apps you would need to use.  If you don't need
> > web access, don't need access to the Gnome help system, or don't need to
> > do much in a terminal session then you might be able to do it.  Also, if
> > you don't mind reading your mail a line at a time, then Gnopernicus
> > might be ok for you.
> > I admit I'm critical of Gnopernicus.  Personally, I don't think Gnome
> > access wil equal console access any time soon.  Try it and see if it
> > does the job for you and let us know.
> >
> >           Kenny
> >
> > On Wed, Oct 13, 2004 at 11:03:03AM -0500, John Heim wrote:
> > > At 12:55 PM 10/12/2004, Janina Sajka you wrote:
> > > >No. And, I will voluntarily add that I have found gnopernicus quite
> > > >stable since about August. That's news, by the way.
> > >
> > > Stable enough to be used at work? I mean, can I earn a living on a linux
> > > box  running gnopernicus? That would make me very happy.
> > >
> > > I write primarily linux apps but I do most of my editing on a Windows
> > > machine accessing the files via samba. But I hate JAWS. Worst piece of
> > > software over $15. And it's WAY over $15.
> > >
> > >
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