Experiences with Elba

Thu Mar 3 14:59:41 UTC 2005

Tommy,

The save parameters keystroke is not mentioned in the manual. I've tried 
numerous times to turn off speech in just the way you suggest, and it 
doesn't work. I do think I need to be root to run the setup application 
and have it stick. This will be a big problem when I set up the Elba for 
my wireless LAN.

John

On Thu, Mar 03, 2005 at 08:26:21AM -0600, Tommy Craig wrote:
> Hi John, 
> 
> 	Well I'm glad the Braille settings stuck. The command is called save
> parimeters. 
> 
> 	I don't understand why the speech is not staying off. You should
> uncheck the speech active box and then do control-q. This is done by
> entering dots 1 2 3 4 5 7 8. Then when prompted to save settings press y.
> When you go back into the settings the check mark should still be gone. 
> 
> 
> Tommy
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blinux-list-bounces at redhat.com [mailto:blinux-list-bounces at redhat.com]
> On Behalf Of John J. Boyer
> Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2005 1:59 AM
> To: Linux for blind general discussion
> Subject: Re: Experiences with Elba
> 
> 
> Tommy,
> 
> That combination of space and right thumb, followed by pressing the easy 
> Access bar down works for setting Grade 2. I don't remember anything 
> about this in the manual. What is it called? 
> 
> I am still trying to turn off speech. I go to the setup application, pick
> voice, go to speech active, press enter to remove the check mark, then
> control-q and y. no effect. It still insists on gabbing all the time.
> Removing the check mark doesn't even affect the settup menu.
> 
> If others on the list would like this d`iscussion taen offlist, let me 
> know. However, the Elba does use Linux.
> 
> As a Linux user, I want root access, so I want to know the default root 
> password.
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> On Thu, Mar 03, 2005 at 12:26:52AM -0600, Tommy Craig wrote:
> > Hi John,
> > 
> > 	When you are in the application set things the way you want them. 
> > Then press the right thumb key and spacebar. release them and within 5 
> > seconds press the easy access bar all the way down. This saves your 
> > settings for that application.
> > 
> > You do not need to be root to save settings. If you change settings in 
> > the setup menus, either escape until you get prompted to save changes 
> > or just enter control-q and you will be prompted to save changes. Type 
> > a y and wait about 20 seconds.
> > 
> > Tommy
> > 
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: blinux-list-bounces at redhat.com 
> > [mailto:blinux-list-bounces at redhat.com]
> > On Behalf Of John J. Boyer
> > Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2005 12:05 AM
> > To: Linux for blind general discussion
> > Subject: Re: Experiences with Elba
> > 
> > 
> > Tommy,
> > 
> > So how do I change the settings for individual applications? When I go
> > to tools and then setup, I get the setup menu and submenus, but there 
> > is no hint of setting things individually for different applications. 
> > The manual says nothing about this. 
> > 
> > The Elba does have the su command, but the manual helpfully does not
> > give the default password. I really think I have to be root for changes 
> > in setup to stick.
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > John
> > 
> > On Wed, Mar 02, 2005 at 10:38:16PM -0600, Tommy Craig wrote:
> > > Hi John,
> > > 
> > > 	The address for the Elba group is:
> > > 
> > > Elba-subscribe at smartgroups.com
> > > 
> > > 	Please note that the e in Elba is capitolized. The reason that
> > speech
> > > doesn't stay of is that each application saves it's settings
> > > separately. This is so you can have grade 2 in one application and not 
> > > in another one or speech on in one application and not in the others. 
> > > You can set items in the control center and they should stick unless 
> > > you override them in an application.
> > > 
> > > 	You can enter all the setup menus by typing t for tools and then s
> > > for setup. Under this menu you have a number of submenus for setting 
> > > speech, braille, networking and much more.
> > > 
> > > Tommy
> > > 
> > > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: blinux-list-bounces at redhat.com
> > > [mailto:blinux-list-bounces at redhat.com]
> > > On Behalf Of John J. Boyer
> > > Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2005 9:10 PM
> > > To: blinux-list at redhat.com
> > > Subject: Experiences with Elba
> > > 
> > > 
> > > The Elba is indeed an interesting Linux Braille PDA. However, it 
> > > takes some getting used to. So far, I haven't been able to set it to 
> > > my preferences. In particular, I can't get it to stop talking. This 
> > > is very irritating, since even with my cochlear implant turned off i 
> > > can feel the vibrations. Also, if I switch it to Grade 2, it 
> > > promptly goes back to computer braille when I change to a different 
> > > application. I've tried turning off speech in the setup application 
> > > numerous times, with no result. Maybe I have to be root to change 
> > > the defaults, but there is no mention of this in the manual.
> > > 
> > > I haven't been able to subscribe to the Elba mailing list. The 
> > > address
> > > given here a few days ago doesn't seem to work.
> > > 
> > > With all that, the Elba has a nice user interface. It is a good
> > > example
> > > of how the usability generally associated with a GUI can be built into a
> 
> > > text-mode interface. 
> > > 
> > > John
> > > 
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