OT: Is there a list for blind Mac users and programmers?

[david poehlman]

Bruce,

I agree with you in part, but there are a bunch of developers here and in 
other places who are blind who will not mighrate to the apple forums at 
least not right away.  There are also a lot of potential end users who are 
blind who at least at first and maybe never will use the apple forums.  Free 
lists is easy to run and Contributions to it by the list owner or either 
known or disguised can have just as much impact in that community.  I wonder 
how easy it is for someone using lynx or pine or mail for that matter on 
linux to access these notes?  I do most if not all of my corresponding by 
pop mail unless I am forced to do other wise because It takes a lot of time 
and energy to do all that checking of this or that web forum.  News groups 
are an option, but I have found that most of the ones I have consumed are 
full of spam.  While we are at it, yahoo groups even if you opt out of all 
the stuff they want to throw at you will still allow spam to get to your 
mail box in one way or another so rather than throw elaborate spam 
filtering, I just do not frequent them or other managed groups that have 
been found to spew spam.  I recieve no spam as a result of my freelists 
accounts.  If we start groups and then we find that there are active groups 
that would serve better, it's not that hard to migrate.

-- 
Johnnie Apple Seed
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bailey, Bruce" <Bruce.Bailey at ed.gov>
To: "Linux for blind general discussion" <blinux-list at redhat.com>
Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 5:29 PM
Subject: RE: OT: Is there a list for blind Mac users and programmers?


I have made the case that developers will automatically gravitate to their 
familiar channels, most likely at one of the Apple sponsored lists.  Do you 
find fault with my reasoning?  If not, volunteering to host a site is not 
logical.  On the other hand, history is full of examples of unreasonable 
things being accomplished by irrational people.  If you have the time, 
energy, and resources to spare, well, best of luck to you!

The natural web space for VO end-users is harder to predict.  It may not be 
as glamorous, but I still think you would be helping the most people by 
becoming active on one of the sub-forums at CTG or the Apple consumer 
end-user discussion lists.  Learning a new site is certainly less work than 
administering a new one.  An established site will automatically get you 
initial traffic.  Your advertising will generate the same traffic largely 
regardless of where you are doing the work.  Likewise, your long term 
success will be dependent on the value you add as a frequent contributor, 
not the back-end bulletin board software!


-----Original Message-----
From: blinux-list-bounces at redhat.com on behalf of david poehlman

If we can get over the post fix issue, freelists is a good choice.  I'd be
happy to host it but think we might need two of them, one for the 
technically
driven and one for the not.




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