gnome question

Janina Sajka janina at
Mon May 2 18:01:59 UTC 2005

Understood, but I guess my point was more in answer to his expressed
concern. So, to reassure that gnome was there by default, frm the dm on.

Kenny Hitt writes:
> Hi.
> My point is that a display manager isn't the same is a window manager.
> Basically, the display manager manages the Xservers, while the window
> manager manages windows drawn on a specific display.
> If you use "startx", then you don't want the display manager running on
> the same work station.  If you do need to keep a display manager running
> on that box, and you still want to use "startx", then you will have to
> set environment vars to make sure the "startx" script launches an
> Xserver on a display not managed by the display manager.
> The behavior you see with Fedora is specific to Fedora.  If you want
> Debian to use gdm, you will have to install it.  By default, the display
> manager will be xdm.  Since the display manager is at the level of X,
> kdm can just as easily be used.
> You are correct that gdm is best designed for the Gnome desktop, but
> using it isn't required and doesn't contribute as much toward
> accessibility as the window manager will.  If you use the wrong window
> manager, you could loose most keyboard shortcuts and some important
> messages about changes in windows on the system.
> Totem is a good example of this.  It shows the song playing in it's
> title.  As the songs change on a mp3 streem, the title is updated.
> Gnopernicus will read you the new title without you needing to do
> anything because metacity is providing the info to gnopernicus.  If you
> use a different window manager, you will likely loos this information.
> Hope this helps.
>           Kenny
> On Mon, May 02, 2005 at 12:45:44PM -0400, Janina Sajka wrote:
> > Well, yes. But, gdm is the "Gnome Display Manager." And, you can
> > correctly take the implication that the default windowing environment on
> > Fedora is Gnome.
> > 
> > I have never heard of a distro shipping with kdm as the default display
> > manager, and gnome as the default windowing environment, in other words.
> > Nor have I heard of of any permutation of that.
> > 
> > Kenny Hitt writes:
> > > Hi.
> > > Gdm is a display manager, not a window manager.The difference is important.
> > > I don't know what the default window manager is for Fedora, but
> > > metacity will probably be best for accessibility.
> > > 
> > > Hope this helps.
> > >           Kenny
> > > 	  
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