Linux without sighted help

[Jude DaShiell]

If the windows xp msdos.sys file is about 2k in size then yes you can.



On Sat, 26 Jan 2008, Kristoffer Gustafsson wrote:

> Can you do that even with win xp?
>
> I didn't believe that.
>
> /Kristoffer
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jude DaShiell" <jdashiel at shellworld.net>
> To: "Linux for blind general discussion" <blinux-list at redhat.com>
> Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2008 7:30 PM
> Subject: Re: Linux without sighted help
>
>
>>  If it's a dell machine push down and hold the delete key right after you
>>  turn the machine on.  You won't get windows coming up but will get into
>>  cmos.  Other things to do.  Change msdos.sys file on that box so you stop
>>  off in dos first.  There are dos screen readers free for download that
>>  will work with hardware synthesizers and that way you get more control
>>  over your equipment.  I did this a long time ago, maybe get sighted help
>>  to do this too it's not hard.  Run in dos and type cmd attrib +w msdos.sys
>>  and hit return.  Then use notepad to edit msdos.sys and change BootGui=1
>>  to BootGui=0 then save the file as a text file and in another dos command
>>  session cmd move c:\msdos.sys.txt c:\msdos.sys and then reboot the
>>  machine.  Dos comes up and everything goes quiet so type win and hit enter
>>  to go into windows until you can get a hardware screen reader and a screen
>>  reader program for it.
>> 
>> 
>>
>>  On Sat, 26 Jan 2008, Imbar Golt wrote:
>> 
>> >  I believe there is a cd boot somewhere only windows comes on first.  So 
>> >  there is no option but to use sighted help.
>> > 
>> >  Thank a lot,
>> > 
>> >  imbar
>> >  ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jude DaShiell" 
>> >  <jdashiel at shellworld.net>
>> >  To: "Linux for blind general discussion" <blinux-list at redhat.com>
>> >  Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2008 8:16 PM
>> >  Subject: Re: Linux without sighted help
>> > 
>> > 
>> > >   No, on that score you're really out of luck.  The boot sequence 
>> > >   should
>> > >   always have cd's in it somewhere otherwise nobody can protect the 
>> > >  security
>> > >   of that computer.  Now, what happens if some virus installs and
>> > >   successfully blocks access to your cmos?  I'll tell you what happens, 
>> > >  it's
>> > >  time to throw that computer and all the equipment and software that 
>> > >  came
>> > >  with it in the garbage because at that point, not even the best sight 
>> > >  on
>> > >   the planet can help you.
>> > > 
>> > > 
>> > >   On Sat, 26 Jan 2008, Imbar Golt wrote:
>> > > 
>> > > >  Please I need something that won't boot from a CD, since I don't 
>> > > >  have sighted help to change the boot sequence.  If there is any 
>> > > >  distribution or virtual consol that can work under windows or boot 
>> > > >  when Windows is already on the computer?
>> > > > 
>> > > >   Thanks,
>> > > > 
>> > > >   Imbar
>> > > >   ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jude DaShiell" 
>> > > >  <jdashiel at shellworld.net>
>> > > >   To: "Linux for blind general discussion" <blinux-list at redhat.com>
>> > > >   Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2008 7:06 PM
>> > > >   Subject: Re: Linux without sighted help
>> > > > 
>> > > > 
>> > > > >  http://www.grml.org/ has an iso file for download.  It's a livecd 
>> > > > >  that can
>> > > > >    also be used to install linux if you like it. Try booting and 
>> > > > >  when the
>> > > > >    disk stops for a few seconds type grml swspeak then hit return. 
>> > > > >  If you
>> > > > >    have a sound card with active speakers you'll hear a message 
>> > > > >  saying grml
>> > > > >    finished booting and telling you to type swspeak again.  This is 
>> > > > >  only
>> > > > >    necessary if linux isn't installed on the hard drive.  Type 
>> > > > >  swspeak again
>> > > > >    and you'll have speech.
>> > > > > 
>> > > > >    On Sat, 26 Jan 2008, Imbar Golt wrote:
>> > > > > 
>> > > > > >    Thanks, I tried that but it did not work, neither way.
>> > > > > > 
>> > > > > >    Imbar
>> > > > > >    ----- Original Message ----- From: "krishnakant Mane" 
>> > > > > >  <krmane at gmail.com>
>> > > > > >    To: "Linux for blind general discussion" 
>> > > > > >  <blinux-list at redhat.com>
>> > > > > >    Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2008 2:40 PM
>> > > > > >    Subject: Re: Linux without sighted help
>> > > > > > 
>> > > > > > 
>> > > > > > >     On 26/01/2008, Imbar Golt <imbar at netvision.net.il> wrote:
>> > > > > > > >     Hi,
>> > > > > > > > 
>> > > > > > > >  Does anyone know of a way to boot Linux without sighted help 
>> > > > > > > >  or a live cd?
>> > > > > > > > 
>> > > > > > >     yes, Ubuntu live cd for gutsy (7.10) works pritty good.
>> > > > > > >     after you put the cd inside and start booting, keep the 
>> > > > > > >     hand 
>> > > > > > >  to the cd
>> > > > > > >     rom drive and the moment it stops vibrating, press f5 then 
>> > > > > > >  number 3
>> > > > > > >     and press enter 2 times.
>> > > > > > >     the system will boot with the orca screen reader.
>> > > > > > >     just in case you fail to do so, let ubuntu boot and then 
>> > > > > > >  press alt +
>> > > > > > >     f2 and type orca.
>> > > > > > >     regards,
>> > > > > > >     Kk
>> > > > > > > >     Thanks,
>> > > > > > > > 
>> > > > > > > >     Imbar
>> > > > > > > > 
>> > > > > > > 
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