Linux without sighted help

Kristoffer Gustafsson kg84 at dreamwld.com
Sat Jan 26 19:39:56 UTC 2008


Hello!
Oh no, I've had a dos boot floppy, with my screen reader on all the time.
Now I'm getting a bit angry, if I only had known this. I had it with loadlin 
on so that I could boot linux with different kernels.

I've never done this with a cd, but I think it would work if you use loadlin 
and load with a vmlinuz kernel on the cd and then install linux onto the 
machine.

/Kristoffer
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jude DaShiell" <jdashiel at shellworld.net>
To: "Linux for blind general discussion" <blinux-list at redhat.com>
Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2008 7:55 PM
Subject: Re: Linux without sighted help


> If the windows xp msdos.sys file is about 2k in size then yes you can.
>
>
>
> On Sat, 26 Jan 2008, Kristoffer Gustafsson wrote:
>
>> Can you do that even with win xp?
>>
>> I didn't believe that.
>>
>> /Kristoffer
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jude DaShiell" 
>> <jdashiel at shellworld.net>
>> To: "Linux for blind general discussion" <blinux-list at redhat.com>
>> Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2008 7:30 PM
>> Subject: Re: Linux without sighted help
>>
>>
>>>  If it's a dell machine push down and hold the delete key right after 
>>> you
>>>  turn the machine on.  You won't get windows coming up but will get into
>>>  cmos.  Other things to do.  Change msdos.sys file on that box so you 
>>> stop
>>>  off in dos first.  There are dos screen readers free for download that
>>>  will work with hardware synthesizers and that way you get more control
>>>  over your equipment.  I did this a long time ago, maybe get sighted 
>>> help
>>>  to do this too it's not hard.  Run in dos and type cmd attrib +w 
>>> msdos.sys
>>>  and hit return.  Then use notepad to edit msdos.sys and change 
>>> BootGui=1
>>>  to BootGui=0 then save the file as a text file and in another dos 
>>> command
>>>  session cmd move c:\msdos.sys.txt c:\msdos.sys and then reboot the
>>>  machine.  Dos comes up and everything goes quiet so type win and hit 
>>> enter
>>>  to go into windows until you can get a hardware screen reader and a 
>>> screen
>>>  reader program for it.
>>>
>>>
>>>  On Sat, 26 Jan 2008, Imbar Golt wrote:
>>>
>>> >  I believe there is a cd boot somewhere only windows comes on first. 
>>> > So there is no option but to use sighted help.
>>> >
>>> >  Thank a lot,
>>> >
>>> >  imbar
>>> >  ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jude DaShiell" 
>>> > <jdashiel at shellworld.net>
>>> >  To: "Linux for blind general discussion" <blinux-list at redhat.com>
>>> >  Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2008 8:16 PM
>>> >  Subject: Re: Linux without sighted help
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > >   No, on that score you're really out of luck.  The boot sequence 
>>> > > should
>>> > >   always have cd's in it somewhere otherwise nobody can protect the 
>>> > > security
>>> > >   of that computer.  Now, what happens if some virus installs and
>>> > >   successfully blocks access to your cmos?  I'll tell you what 
>>> > > happens, it's
>>> > >  time to throw that computer and all the equipment and software that 
>>> > > came
>>> > >  with it in the garbage because at that point, not even the best 
>>> > > sight on
>>> > >   the planet can help you.
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > >   On Sat, 26 Jan 2008, Imbar Golt wrote:
>>> > >
>>> > > >  Please I need something that won't boot from a CD, since I don't 
>>> > > > have sighted help to change the boot sequence.  If there is any 
>>> > > > distribution or virtual consol that can work under windows or boot 
>>> > > > when Windows is already on the computer?
>>> > > >
>>> > > >   Thanks,
>>> > > >
>>> > > >   Imbar
>>> > > >   ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jude DaShiell" 
>>> > > > <jdashiel at shellworld.net>
>>> > > >   To: "Linux for blind general discussion" 
>>> > > > <blinux-list at redhat.com>
>>> > > >   Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2008 7:06 PM
>>> > > >   Subject: Re: Linux without sighted help
>>> > > >
>>> > > >
>>> > > > >  http://www.grml.org/ has an iso file for download.  It's a 
>>> > > > > livecd that can
>>> > > > >    also be used to install linux if you like it. Try booting and 
>>> > > > > when the
>>> > > > >    disk stops for a few seconds type grml swspeak then hit 
>>> > > > > return. If you
>>> > > > >    have a sound card with active speakers you'll hear a message 
>>> > > > > saying grml
>>> > > > >    finished booting and telling you to type swspeak again.  This 
>>> > > > > is only
>>> > > > >    necessary if linux isn't installed on the hard drive.  Type 
>>> > > > > swspeak again
>>> > > > >    and you'll have speech.
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > >    On Sat, 26 Jan 2008, Imbar Golt wrote:
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > >    Thanks, I tried that but it did not work, neither way.
>>> > > > > >
>>> > > > > >    Imbar
>>> > > > > >    ----- Original Message ----- From: "krishnakant Mane" 
>>> > > > > > <krmane at gmail.com>
>>> > > > > >    To: "Linux for blind general discussion" 
>>> > > > > > <blinux-list at redhat.com>
>>> > > > > >    Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2008 2:40 PM
>>> > > > > >    Subject: Re: Linux without sighted help
>>> > > > > >
>>> > > > > >
>>> > > > > > >     On 26/01/2008, Imbar Golt <imbar at netvision.net.il> 
>>> > > > > > > wrote:
>>> > > > > > > >     Hi,
>>> > > > > > > >
>>> > > > > > > >  Does anyone know of a way to boot Linux without sighted 
>>> > > > > > > > help or a live cd?
>>> > > > > > > >
>>> > > > > > >     yes, Ubuntu live cd for gutsy (7.10) works pritty good.
>>> > > > > > >     after you put the cd inside and start booting, keep the 
>>> > > > > > > hand to the cd
>>> > > > > > >     rom drive and the moment it stops vibrating, press f5 
>>> > > > > > > then number 3
>>> > > > > > >     and press enter 2 times.
>>> > > > > > >     the system will boot with the orca screen reader.
>>> > > > > > >     just in case you fail to do so, let ubuntu boot and then 
>>> > > > > > > press alt +
>>> > > > > > >     f2 and type orca.
>>> > > > > > >     regards,
>>> > > > > > >     Kk
>>> > > > > > > >     Thanks,
>>> > > > > > > >
>>> > > > > > > >     Imbar
>>> > > > > > > >
>>> > > > > > >
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