Linux without sighted help
Kristoffer Gustafsson
kg84 at dreamwld.com
Sat Jan 26 19:39:56 UTC 2008
Hello!
Oh no, I've had a dos boot floppy, with my screen reader on all the time.
Now I'm getting a bit angry, if I only had known this. I had it with loadlin
on so that I could boot linux with different kernels.
I've never done this with a cd, but I think it would work if you use loadlin
and load with a vmlinuz kernel on the cd and then install linux onto the
machine.
/Kristoffer
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jude DaShiell" <jdashiel at shellworld.net>
To: "Linux for blind general discussion" <blinux-list at redhat.com>
Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2008 7:55 PM
Subject: Re: Linux without sighted help
> If the windows xp msdos.sys file is about 2k in size then yes you can.
>
>
>
> On Sat, 26 Jan 2008, Kristoffer Gustafsson wrote:
>
>> Can you do that even with win xp?
>>
>> I didn't believe that.
>>
>> /Kristoffer
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jude DaShiell"
>> <jdashiel at shellworld.net>
>> To: "Linux for blind general discussion" <blinux-list at redhat.com>
>> Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2008 7:30 PM
>> Subject: Re: Linux without sighted help
>>
>>
>>> If it's a dell machine push down and hold the delete key right after
>>> you
>>> turn the machine on. You won't get windows coming up but will get into
>>> cmos. Other things to do. Change msdos.sys file on that box so you
>>> stop
>>> off in dos first. There are dos screen readers free for download that
>>> will work with hardware synthesizers and that way you get more control
>>> over your equipment. I did this a long time ago, maybe get sighted
>>> help
>>> to do this too it's not hard. Run in dos and type cmd attrib +w
>>> msdos.sys
>>> and hit return. Then use notepad to edit msdos.sys and change
>>> BootGui=1
>>> to BootGui=0 then save the file as a text file and in another dos
>>> command
>>> session cmd move c:\msdos.sys.txt c:\msdos.sys and then reboot the
>>> machine. Dos comes up and everything goes quiet so type win and hit
>>> enter
>>> to go into windows until you can get a hardware screen reader and a
>>> screen
>>> reader program for it.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, 26 Jan 2008, Imbar Golt wrote:
>>>
>>> > I believe there is a cd boot somewhere only windows comes on first.
>>> > So there is no option but to use sighted help.
>>> >
>>> > Thank a lot,
>>> >
>>> > imbar
>>> > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jude DaShiell"
>>> > <jdashiel at shellworld.net>
>>> > To: "Linux for blind general discussion" <blinux-list at redhat.com>
>>> > Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2008 8:16 PM
>>> > Subject: Re: Linux without sighted help
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > > No, on that score you're really out of luck. The boot sequence
>>> > > should
>>> > > always have cd's in it somewhere otherwise nobody can protect the
>>> > > security
>>> > > of that computer. Now, what happens if some virus installs and
>>> > > successfully blocks access to your cmos? I'll tell you what
>>> > > happens, it's
>>> > > time to throw that computer and all the equipment and software that
>>> > > came
>>> > > with it in the garbage because at that point, not even the best
>>> > > sight on
>>> > > the planet can help you.
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > > On Sat, 26 Jan 2008, Imbar Golt wrote:
>>> > >
>>> > > > Please I need something that won't boot from a CD, since I don't
>>> > > > have sighted help to change the boot sequence. If there is any
>>> > > > distribution or virtual consol that can work under windows or boot
>>> > > > when Windows is already on the computer?
>>> > > >
>>> > > > Thanks,
>>> > > >
>>> > > > Imbar
>>> > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jude DaShiell"
>>> > > > <jdashiel at shellworld.net>
>>> > > > To: "Linux for blind general discussion"
>>> > > > <blinux-list at redhat.com>
>>> > > > Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2008 7:06 PM
>>> > > > Subject: Re: Linux without sighted help
>>> > > >
>>> > > >
>>> > > > > http://www.grml.org/ has an iso file for download. It's a
>>> > > > > livecd that can
>>> > > > > also be used to install linux if you like it. Try booting and
>>> > > > > when the
>>> > > > > disk stops for a few seconds type grml swspeak then hit
>>> > > > > return. If you
>>> > > > > have a sound card with active speakers you'll hear a message
>>> > > > > saying grml
>>> > > > > finished booting and telling you to type swspeak again. This
>>> > > > > is only
>>> > > > > necessary if linux isn't installed on the hard drive. Type
>>> > > > > swspeak again
>>> > > > > and you'll have speech.
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > On Sat, 26 Jan 2008, Imbar Golt wrote:
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > > Thanks, I tried that but it did not work, neither way.
>>> > > > > >
>>> > > > > > Imbar
>>> > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "krishnakant Mane"
>>> > > > > > <krmane at gmail.com>
>>> > > > > > To: "Linux for blind general discussion"
>>> > > > > > <blinux-list at redhat.com>
>>> > > > > > Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2008 2:40 PM
>>> > > > > > Subject: Re: Linux without sighted help
>>> > > > > >
>>> > > > > >
>>> > > > > > > On 26/01/2008, Imbar Golt <imbar at netvision.net.il>
>>> > > > > > > wrote:
>>> > > > > > > > Hi,
>>> > > > > > > >
>>> > > > > > > > Does anyone know of a way to boot Linux without sighted
>>> > > > > > > > help or a live cd?
>>> > > > > > > >
>>> > > > > > > yes, Ubuntu live cd for gutsy (7.10) works pritty good.
>>> > > > > > > after you put the cd inside and start booting, keep the
>>> > > > > > > hand to the cd
>>> > > > > > > rom drive and the moment it stops vibrating, press f5
>>> > > > > > > then number 3
>>> > > > > > > and press enter 2 times.
>>> > > > > > > the system will boot with the orca screen reader.
>>> > > > > > > just in case you fail to do so, let ubuntu boot and then
>>> > > > > > > press alt +
>>> > > > > > > f2 and type orca.
>>> > > > > > > regards,
>>> > > > > > > Kk
>>> > > > > > > > Thanks,
>>> > > > > > > >
>>> > > > > > > > Imbar
>>> > > > > > > >
>>> > > > > > >
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