Linux without sighted help

Jude DaShiell jdashiel at shellworld.net
Sat Jan 26 20:06:15 UTC 2008


Check the file size first, if it's larger than 2k it's a binary file and 
this won't work.



On Sat, 26 Jan 2008, Kristoffer Gustafsson wrote:

> Hello!
> Oh no, I've had a dos boot floppy, with my screen reader on all the time.
> Now I'm getting a bit angry, if I only had known this. I had it with loadlin 
> on so that I could boot linux with different kernels.
>
> I've never done this with a cd, but I think it would work if you use loadlin 
> and load with a vmlinuz kernel on the cd and then install linux onto the 
> machine.
>
> /Kristoffer
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jude DaShiell" <jdashiel at shellworld.net>
> To: "Linux for blind general discussion" <blinux-list at redhat.com>
> Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2008 7:55 PM
> Subject: Re: Linux without sighted help
>
>
>>  If the windows xp msdos.sys file is about 2k in size then yes you can.
>> 
>> 
>>
>>  On Sat, 26 Jan 2008, Kristoffer Gustafsson wrote:
>> 
>> >  Can you do that even with win xp?
>> > 
>> >  I didn't believe that.
>> > 
>> >  /Kristoffer
>> >  ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jude DaShiell" 
>> >  <jdashiel at shellworld.net>
>> >  To: "Linux for blind general discussion" <blinux-list at redhat.com>
>> >  Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2008 7:30 PM
>> >  Subject: Re: Linux without sighted help
>> > 
>> > 
>> > >  If it's a dell machine push down and hold the delete key right after 
>> > >  you
>> > >   turn the machine on.  You won't get windows coming up but will get 
>> > >   into
>> > >   cmos.  Other things to do.  Change msdos.sys file on that box so you 
>> > >  stop
>> > >   off in dos first.  There are dos screen readers free for download 
>> > >   that
>> > >   will work with hardware synthesizers and that way you get more 
>> > >   control
>> > >   over your equipment.  I did this a long time ago, maybe get sighted 
>> > >  help
>> > >  to do this too it's not hard.  Run in dos and type cmd attrib +w 
>> > >  msdos.sys
>> > >  and hit return.  Then use notepad to edit msdos.sys and change 
>> > >  BootGui=1
>> > >  to BootGui=0 then save the file as a text file and in another dos 
>> > >  command
>> > >   session cmd move c:\msdos.sys.txt c:\msdos.sys and then reboot the
>> > >   machine.  Dos comes up and everything goes quiet so type win and hit 
>> > >  enter
>> > >  to go into windows until you can get a hardware screen reader and a 
>> > >  screen
>> > >   reader program for it.
>> > > 
>> > > 
>> > >   On Sat, 26 Jan 2008, Imbar Golt wrote:
>> > > 
>> > > >  I believe there is a cd boot somewhere only windows comes on first. 
>> > > >  So there is no option but to use sighted help.
>> > > > 
>> > > >   Thank a lot,
>> > > > 
>> > > >   imbar
>> > > >   ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jude DaShiell" 
>> > > >  <jdashiel at shellworld.net>
>> > > >   To: "Linux for blind general discussion" <blinux-list at redhat.com>
>> > > >   Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2008 8:16 PM
>> > > >   Subject: Re: Linux without sighted help
>> > > > 
>> > > > 
>> > > > >    No, on that score you're really out of luck.  The boot sequence 
>> > > > >  should
>> > > > >    always have cd's in it somewhere otherwise nobody can protect 
>> > > > >  the security
>> > > > >    of that computer.  Now, what happens if some virus installs and
>> > > > >    successfully blocks access to your cmos?  I'll tell you what 
>> > > > >  happens, it's
>> > > > >  time to throw that computer and all the equipment and software 
>> > > > >  that came
>> > > > >  with it in the garbage because at that point, not even the best 
>> > > > >  sight on
>> > > > >    the planet can help you.
>> > > > > 
>> > > > > 
>> > > > >    On Sat, 26 Jan 2008, Imbar Golt wrote:
>> > > > > 
>> > > > > >  Please I need something that won't boot from a CD, since I don't 
>> > > > > >  have sighted help to change the boot sequence.  If there is any 
>> > > > > >  distribution or virtual consol that can work under windows or 
>> > > > > >  boot when Windows is already on the computer?
>> > > > > > 
>> > > > > >    Thanks,
>> > > > > > 
>> > > > > >    Imbar
>> > > > > >    ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jude DaShiell" 
>> > > > > >  <jdashiel at shellworld.net>
>> > > > > >    To: "Linux for blind general discussion" 
>> > > > > >  <blinux-list at redhat.com>
>> > > > > >    Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2008 7:06 PM
>> > > > > >    Subject: Re: Linux without sighted help
>> > > > > > 
>> > > > > > 
>> > > > > > >  http://www.grml.org/ has an iso file for download.  It's a 
>> > > > > > >  livecd that can
>> > > > > > >     also be used to install linux if you like it. Try booting 
>> > > > > > >  and when the
>> > > > > > >     disk stops for a few seconds type grml swspeak then hit 
>> > > > > > >  return. If you
>> > > > > > >     have a sound card with active speakers you'll hear a 
>> > > > > > >  message saying grml
>> > > > > > >     finished booting and telling you to type swspeak again. 
>> > > > > > >  This is only
>> > > > > > >     necessary if linux isn't installed on the hard drive.  Type 
>> > > > > > >  swspeak again
>> > > > > > >     and you'll have speech.
>> > > > > > > 
>> > > > > > >     On Sat, 26 Jan 2008, Imbar Golt wrote:
>> > > > > > > 
>> > > > > > > >     Thanks, I tried that but it did not work, neither way.
>> > > > > > > > 
>> > > > > > > >     Imbar
>> > > > > > > >     ----- Original Message ----- From: "krishnakant Mane" 
>> > > > > > > >  <krmane at gmail.com>
>> > > > > > > >     To: "Linux for blind general discussion" 
>> > > > > > > >  <blinux-list at redhat.com>
>> > > > > > > >     Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2008 2:40 PM
>> > > > > > > >     Subject: Re: Linux without sighted help
>> > > > > > > > 
>> > > > > > > > 
>> > > > > > > > >      On 26/01/2008, Imbar Golt <imbar at netvision.net.il> 
>> > > > > > > > >  wrote:
>> > > > > > > > > >      Hi,
>> > > > > > > > > > 
>> > > > > > > > > >  Does anyone know of a way to boot Linux without sighted 
>> > > > > > > > > >  help or a live cd?
>> > > > > > > > > > 
>> > > > > > > > >      yes, Ubuntu live cd for gutsy (7.10) works pritty 
>> > > > > > > > >      good.
>> > > > > > > > >      after you put the cd inside and start booting, keep 
>> > > > > > > > >      the 
>> > > > > > > > >  hand to the cd
>> > > > > > > > >      rom drive and the moment it stops vibrating, press f5 
>> > > > > > > > >  then number 3
>> > > > > > > > >      and press enter 2 times.
>> > > > > > > > >      the system will boot with the orca screen reader.
>> > > > > > > > >      just in case you fail to do so, let ubuntu boot and 
>> > > > > > > > >      then 
>> > > > > > > > >  press alt +
>> > > > > > > > >      f2 and type orca.
>> > > > > > > > >      regards,
>> > > > > > > > >      Kk
>> > > > > > > > > >      Thanks,
>> > > > > > > > > > 
>> > > > > > > > > >      Imbar
>> > > > > > > > > > 
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