Linux without sighted help
Jude DaShiell
jdashiel at shellworld.net
Sat Jan 26 20:06:15 UTC 2008
Check the file size first, if it's larger than 2k it's a binary file and
this won't work.
On Sat, 26 Jan 2008, Kristoffer Gustafsson wrote:
> Hello!
> Oh no, I've had a dos boot floppy, with my screen reader on all the time.
> Now I'm getting a bit angry, if I only had known this. I had it with loadlin
> on so that I could boot linux with different kernels.
>
> I've never done this with a cd, but I think it would work if you use loadlin
> and load with a vmlinuz kernel on the cd and then install linux onto the
> machine.
>
> /Kristoffer
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jude DaShiell" <jdashiel at shellworld.net>
> To: "Linux for blind general discussion" <blinux-list at redhat.com>
> Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2008 7:55 PM
> Subject: Re: Linux without sighted help
>
>
>> If the windows xp msdos.sys file is about 2k in size then yes you can.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, 26 Jan 2008, Kristoffer Gustafsson wrote:
>>
>> > Can you do that even with win xp?
>> >
>> > I didn't believe that.
>> >
>> > /Kristoffer
>> > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jude DaShiell"
>> > <jdashiel at shellworld.net>
>> > To: "Linux for blind general discussion" <blinux-list at redhat.com>
>> > Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2008 7:30 PM
>> > Subject: Re: Linux without sighted help
>> >
>> >
>> > > If it's a dell machine push down and hold the delete key right after
>> > > you
>> > > turn the machine on. You won't get windows coming up but will get
>> > > into
>> > > cmos. Other things to do. Change msdos.sys file on that box so you
>> > > stop
>> > > off in dos first. There are dos screen readers free for download
>> > > that
>> > > will work with hardware synthesizers and that way you get more
>> > > control
>> > > over your equipment. I did this a long time ago, maybe get sighted
>> > > help
>> > > to do this too it's not hard. Run in dos and type cmd attrib +w
>> > > msdos.sys
>> > > and hit return. Then use notepad to edit msdos.sys and change
>> > > BootGui=1
>> > > to BootGui=0 then save the file as a text file and in another dos
>> > > command
>> > > session cmd move c:\msdos.sys.txt c:\msdos.sys and then reboot the
>> > > machine. Dos comes up and everything goes quiet so type win and hit
>> > > enter
>> > > to go into windows until you can get a hardware screen reader and a
>> > > screen
>> > > reader program for it.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > On Sat, 26 Jan 2008, Imbar Golt wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > I believe there is a cd boot somewhere only windows comes on first.
>> > > > So there is no option but to use sighted help.
>> > > >
>> > > > Thank a lot,
>> > > >
>> > > > imbar
>> > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jude DaShiell"
>> > > > <jdashiel at shellworld.net>
>> > > > To: "Linux for blind general discussion" <blinux-list at redhat.com>
>> > > > Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2008 8:16 PM
>> > > > Subject: Re: Linux without sighted help
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > > No, on that score you're really out of luck. The boot sequence
>> > > > > should
>> > > > > always have cd's in it somewhere otherwise nobody can protect
>> > > > > the security
>> > > > > of that computer. Now, what happens if some virus installs and
>> > > > > successfully blocks access to your cmos? I'll tell you what
>> > > > > happens, it's
>> > > > > time to throw that computer and all the equipment and software
>> > > > > that came
>> > > > > with it in the garbage because at that point, not even the best
>> > > > > sight on
>> > > > > the planet can help you.
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > On Sat, 26 Jan 2008, Imbar Golt wrote:
>> > > > >
>> > > > > > Please I need something that won't boot from a CD, since I don't
>> > > > > > have sighted help to change the boot sequence. If there is any
>> > > > > > distribution or virtual consol that can work under windows or
>> > > > > > boot when Windows is already on the computer?
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Thanks,
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Imbar
>> > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jude DaShiell"
>> > > > > > <jdashiel at shellworld.net>
>> > > > > > To: "Linux for blind general discussion"
>> > > > > > <blinux-list at redhat.com>
>> > > > > > Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2008 7:06 PM
>> > > > > > Subject: Re: Linux without sighted help
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > > http://www.grml.org/ has an iso file for download. It's a
>> > > > > > > livecd that can
>> > > > > > > also be used to install linux if you like it. Try booting
>> > > > > > > and when the
>> > > > > > > disk stops for a few seconds type grml swspeak then hit
>> > > > > > > return. If you
>> > > > > > > have a sound card with active speakers you'll hear a
>> > > > > > > message saying grml
>> > > > > > > finished booting and telling you to type swspeak again.
>> > > > > > > This is only
>> > > > > > > necessary if linux isn't installed on the hard drive. Type
>> > > > > > > swspeak again
>> > > > > > > and you'll have speech.
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > On Sat, 26 Jan 2008, Imbar Golt wrote:
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > Thanks, I tried that but it did not work, neither way.
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > Imbar
>> > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "krishnakant Mane"
>> > > > > > > > <krmane at gmail.com>
>> > > > > > > > To: "Linux for blind general discussion"
>> > > > > > > > <blinux-list at redhat.com>
>> > > > > > > > Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2008 2:40 PM
>> > > > > > > > Subject: Re: Linux without sighted help
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > On 26/01/2008, Imbar Golt <imbar at netvision.net.il>
>> > > > > > > > > wrote:
>> > > > > > > > > > Hi,
>> > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > Does anyone know of a way to boot Linux without sighted
>> > > > > > > > > > help or a live cd?
>> > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > yes, Ubuntu live cd for gutsy (7.10) works pritty
>> > > > > > > > > good.
>> > > > > > > > > after you put the cd inside and start booting, keep
>> > > > > > > > > the
>> > > > > > > > > hand to the cd
>> > > > > > > > > rom drive and the moment it stops vibrating, press f5
>> > > > > > > > > then number 3
>> > > > > > > > > and press enter 2 times.
>> > > > > > > > > the system will boot with the orca screen reader.
>> > > > > > > > > just in case you fail to do so, let ubuntu boot and
>> > > > > > > > > then
>> > > > > > > > > press alt +
>> > > > > > > > > f2 and type orca.
>> > > > > > > > > regards,
>> > > > > > > > > Kk
>> > > > > > > > > > Thanks,
>> > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > Imbar
>> > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > >
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