systematic backups in Linux?

Karen Lewellen klewellen at
Sat May 3 15:25:36 UTC 2008

Hi there,
Thanks once again for the command and ideas.
Frankly I do not want anon line option.  If that were safe enough I 
would just leave things here at shellworld.
I think my biggest worry is maintaining  the speed and normalcy with which 
I work.
I realize many here spend their lives working with and playing with this 
technology, but I run a production company, so want a Linux setup that is 
solid reliable, and need not be changed every other week.
You have totally persuaded me that ftp is not the way to go.  I love the 
idea of flexibility and updated backups.
Now to get the rest of what I need together.

On Sat, 3 May 2008, Tony Baechler wrote:

> Karen Lewellen wrote:
>>  I am trying to remember the command for learning my file size usage up
>>  here, but as I now have .pdf files missing too,  it would not be correct
>>  in any case.
> Hi,
> Try this:
> du -s
>>  I may now need to create a server of my own, since I cannot imagine having
>>  to send something back up here if I need it...which has happened 4 times
>>  in the past few days.
>>  Plus I want to keep my folder structure in pine if I can.
> Well, rsync works both ways, so if files are missing from a remote account 
> that are present locally, it will copy them as well as copying remote files 
> to the local server.  The idea is to keep a directory structure synchronized. 
> I've used it to back up hard drives and my home directory on a server with 
> great success.  I recently posted here about backing up email when Daniel 
> asked, but the short answer is that it should work just as well for folders 
> and mailboxes as anything else.  I have several hundred mbox format mailboxes 
> that copied fine.  Also, rsync works over ssh so it should work fine assuming 
> you have a shell account and ssh is supported.  That is far more secure than 
> ftp which has no encryption at all.
> I had another thought.  There are various online backup services that might 
> eliminate the need for you to download a huge amount of data and wouldn't 
> require DSL or your own server.  Of course you would have to pay for such a 
> service, but since it's all done online, you would have nothing to worry 
> about storing locally.  There is one service that uses rsync but I'm not 
> remembering the name at the moment.  I think the idea is that you use rsync 
> to move your files as you would normally but you back them up to a restricted 
> ssh account on their server.  I have no idea what prices are or how much 
> space you get.
> To get you started, here is a sample command line which I use to backup my 
> home directory:
> rsync tony at .
> Or, to "archive" files including all directories, file permissions, dates and 
> times, etc as well as giving more verbose output:
> rsync -av tony at .
> You could replace the dot with another drive and path, like this:
> rsync -av tony at g:\serverhome
> That doesn't even scratch the surface of what rsync can do but that should 
> get you started.  As with all good tools, it has options to exclude certain 
> files if you have some stored locally already and don't want to back them up. 
> It scans both local and remote directories first so it doesn't download files 
> that are already present, saving time and bandwidth.  I wouldn't go back to 
> ftp again for any serious backing up because rsync is so much faster and more 
> flexible.
> Keep me posted, I'm interested in what options you decide to pursue and how 
> it works out.
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