Has any solution for blind to run windows under linux?

Scott Berry n7zib at northlc.com
Mon Jan 12 12:55:52 UTC 2009


Amen David,

Like you have already said Jaws's rendering of pages is not the natural
look and feel of the page and when you try to tell someone where to find
a link you are always way off in Jaws where as in Orca or I suppose the
Mac you can tell them right where it's at.  Also not having to use forms
mode is also a god send.  You don't have an extra keystroke there.  I am
still getting used to the regular look of a page butit's coming along
nicely.



On Sun, 2009-01-11 at 14:15 -0500, David Poehlman wrote:
> we are mixing apples with oranges here.  getting vm to run under linux  
> has nothing to do with voiceover and safari.
> 
> Jaws is over crowded with complexity, it robs us of the natural ook  
> and feel of the browser and makes a lot of mistakes in doing so.  I  
> find it takes no greater number of keystrokes to do most things with  
> voiceover.  I don't know what the "conventional wisdom" means here but  
> I have been using voiceover for 5 years now and am so glad I don't  
> have to be forced to turn on forms mode or turn off the virtual mode  
> just to use the web.
> 
> On Jan 11, 2009, at 2:04 PM, John Heim wrote:
> 
> My ultimate goal is to be jaws free. And I'm typing this on a Mac  
> mini. But my impression is that jaws and Windows is still  
> significantly ahead of Mac OS and voiceover. It takes too many  
> keystrokes to get things done vya voiceover. I even asked about this  
> on the voiceover list last summer and the conventional wisdom is that  
> voiceover isn't quite up to jaws level yet.
> 
> I've been trying to get Windows to run in a virtual machine under  
> linux. I don't think there is any way I'd have been able to get that  
> done without jaws.
> 
> 
> On Jan 11, 2009, at 12:12 PM, David Poehlman wrote:
> 
> > I find safari with voice over superior to jaws.
> >
> > On Jan 11, 2009, at 1:00 PM, John Heim wrote:
> >
> > Windows still has quite a few advantages as a user interface over  
> > linux espeically for the blind. Windows and jaws is better than Max  
> > OS and VoiceOver too. Go on the voiceOver email list and even they  
> > will admit that. Note that I'm sending this from a Mac mini.
> >
> > Other reasons to want to run Windows would include the possibility  
> > that you need to use some software that is available only for  
> > Windows and the possibility that you have to support Windows.
> >
> > I just got Windows running in a virtual machine via vmware server2.  
> > But I'll post another message about that.
> >
> >
> > On Jan 11, 2009, at 6:18 AM, Jude DaShiell wrote:
> >
> >> Really, that's as bad as running windows on the mac!  In both cases  
> >> why accept the security problems and waste the disk space?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Fri, 27 Jun 2008, Cody Hurst wrote:
> >>
> >>> The simple answer is no. There are ways, but you'd better do your  
> >>> reading before asking such things because the ways that are there  
> >>> are inaccessible.
> >>> And, why would you want to run windows under linux in the first  
> >>> place?
> >>> On Jun 26, 2008, at 6:05 PM, 高生旺 wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> As title. Thank you!
> >>>> Coscell
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