Linux GUI FAQ/tutorial?

trev.saunders at trev.saunders at
Fri Jan 22 03:03:16 UTC 2010


really? even alt sysRQ k won't kill the editor? I recognize that speakup running in kernel mode means that it can panic the whole kernel, but ...
I don't use speakup much and don't use either of those editors.


> It's possible to learn to copy and paste text using the speakup clipboard 
> and there's a good reason to learn that clipboard too.  You can move stuff 
> from beyond any confines of any editor.  Position the cursor on the screen 
> where you want it with speakup keys on the numpad and hit the slash key on 
> the numpad and you've just set a mark.  Next move the cursor either to the 
> end of the screen or the end of your block and hit the star key just to 
> the right of that slash key and speakup will say cut.  Don't worry since 
> nothing was cut in the sense windows uses that.  What just happened was 
> you marked the end of your block and all that text between the beginning 
> and end of your text block is now in the speakup clipboard.  Next find 
> where you want to put the text and get there with the speakup cursor 
> controls on the numpad and hit insert-slash both keys on the numpad and 
> your text that's on the clipboard just got pasted where you put your 
> cursor.  Now this is interesting.  If you use emacs, emacs does not get in 
> the way of the speakup clipboard and its working but elvis and ed very 
> definitely do and actually lock up.  I've had to reboot the system more 
> than once until I found me a useable editor.On Thu, 21 Jan 2010, Octavian 
> R?snita wrote:
> > Hi Trev,
> >
> > From: <trev.saunders at>
> >>  Personally I prefer yasr to speakup, and like vim as an editor.  vi m
> >>  works well with yasr, and is useable with speakup.
> >
> > Well, maybe my espectations are wrong because they are based mostly on my 
> > Linux - cli experience in a SecureCRT console from Windows, but I was lost 
> > each time vi started as a default editor.
> >
> > To be more specific, I would like to be able to use an editor that lets me 
> to 
> > use the arrow keys to read the text line by line and word by word and char 
> by 
> > char with up and down arrows, control+left and right arrows, or simply the 
> > left and right arrows, allow me to select the text using the shift key, 
> > selected text that can be read by the screen reader when I want to, to be 
> > able to copy/paste the text from a program into another with a simple 
> > combination of key, execute the currently open program source code with a 
> > specified interpreter that also offers me the possibility of specifying som
> e 
> > parameters, find/replace using regular expressions with a simple combinatio
> n 
> > of keys, and very few other things.
> >
> > I ask if these are possible, because as I said, when vi was opened in an SS
> H 
> > console and I tried to use the arrow keys, I used to hear only some beep 
> > sounds, without beeing able to read anything, and instead of giving 
> > combinations of keys for exiting/saving like Control+S, Control+Q or 
> > something like that, I needed to type simple text commands like ":", which 
> is 
> > very strange for a modern editor.
> >
> >>  I think by far the best option is mutt.
> >
> > I guess mutt is accessible under Linux. I have tried a Windows version that
> > had big accessibility issues.
> > Is mutt able to create/display html mail messages?
> > Can it group the messages by conversation? Can we define more folders and 
> > rules for moving the messages automaticly in those folders based on some 
> > conditions?
> > I guess the answer is yes, but I want to know what I should expect.
> >
> >>  agreed, bash makes a pretty excellent file manager.
> >
> > Well, for some tasks yes. I would be very happy if Windows command prompt 
> > would have the features of bash. But for some tasks a file manager like 
> > Windows Explorer is much better, but it is good if there is one for Linux 
> > also.
> >
> > However as I said, my biggest fear remains the text editor. Under Windows 
> > there is no text editor without issues. The best is TextPad, but it doesn't
> > fully support UTF-8 which is very bad.
> > I have tried tens of editors under Windows and all of them have issues, but
> > under Linux I think I don't have so many editors to choose unfortunately.
> >
> > Octavian
> >
> >
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