messages being called "unread" after I read them

Al Sten-Clanton albert.e.sten_clanton at
Tue Jun 18 18:23:50 UTC 2013

Thanks!.  I guess I need to change some settings because of Verizon 
having made changes, so I'll see what happens after that.


On 06/18/2013 01:47 PM, Christopher Chaltain wrote:
> No ideas, although I wouldn't think the problems with deleted messages
> would be related to the issue with messages being marked unread. Are you
> using IMAP or POP? I'd check your settings on your different machines to
> make sure everything is set the way you expect.
> On 06/18/2013 12:38 PM, Al Sten-Clanton wrote:
>> Thanks for your thoughts.  It might be the bug you mention, which might
>> explain misreading of the message list from time to time.
>> I wonder if this problem might relate to one with deleting messages.  As
>> I recall, I have my server settings set to delete messages from the
>> server either after fourteen days or when I delete them.  Usually,
>> messages I've deleted on this Linux machine, expecting them to be
>> removed from the server as well, remain there and come down on our
>> Windows machine.  Occasionally, however, the delete seems to work.  This
>> was not always a problem, but seems to have happened for well over a
>> year now.  If any of this gives you an idea I might use, I'll be
>> grateful.
>> Al
>> On 06/18/2013 12:53 PM, Christopher Chaltain wrote:
>>> Well, this is personal preference. I use the preview pane, and I don't
>>> want a message marked as read as I flip  through or arrow down through
>>> my messages, which is why I have it set to 5 seconds.
>>> This doesn't explain your problem though, since if anything, this
>>> setting would be overly aggressive in marking things as read. I wonder
>>> if you're hitting a bug where the list view in Thunderbird isn't being
>>> read correctly by Orca. I'm not sure if this is an Orca bug, a
>>> Thunderbird bug or somewhere in between.
>>> If you want to just take a look at your unread messages, you might try
>>> checking View -> Threads -> Unread.
>>> On 06/18/2013 07:43 AM, Al Sten-Clanton wrote:
>>>> I have it set to mark as read immediately on display.  Should I use a
>>>> different setting?  Thanks.
>>>> Al
>>>> On 06/17/2013 06:24 PM, Christopher Chaltain wrote:
>>>>> In Thunderbird, if you go into Edit -> Preferences -> Advanced ->
>>>>> Reading and Display, how do you have it configured to mark messages as
>>>>> read? For example, in my set up, I have messages automatically
>>>>> marked as
>>>>> read if I view them for five seconds. If I'm in a message for less
>>>>> than
>>>>> five seconds, it'll still show up as unread.
>>>>> On 06/17/2013 03:10 PM, Al Sten-Clanton wrote:
>>>>>> Hi.
>>>>>> I often find that as I arrow through my inbox messages in
>>>>>> Thunderbird,
>>>>>> ones I've read are said to be unread.  Since this just happened, I
>>>>>> thought I'd ask if anybody else sees this or knows how to fix it.
>>>>>> I'm using Fedora 18, orca 3.6.3, and Thunderbird 17.0.6.  I've seen
>>>>>> this
>>>>>> for a while, though.
>>>>>> Thanks for any help.
>>>>>> Al
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