just how much can you do with?
klewellen at shellworld.net
Sun Mar 3 14:36:36 UTC 2013
I have a more detailed reply to one of Tim's but let me speak to
I use DOS by choice because it works for me, works for lots of others too
which is why it is still under development.
Still, I would indeed happily pay for in person Linux training.
I have zero interest in on the phone training because for my combination
of needs, it will not do the job.
One cannot train me via email either, one must be here noting what I am
doing what I desire to do and why.
It is like Lee said below. I sent two days with a professional learning
what I needed...in 1988. I continue to successfully build on that in
person training. I think I spent an additional four hours when I changed
screen readers in the mid 90s or so, but still the training in person
catered to my needs made the difference.
That cannot be matched over the phone, certainly not worth an investment
of financial resources for me at least.
My detailed explanation for Tim might make that more clear.
as one extra example.
One can, if desired pay apple $99 and for a year you can sit down as often
as you wish in person with an apple staff member and get hands on
training with apple products.
That to me is a worthwhile investment in learning both the speech and the
operating system from those who designed them both.
even Apple knows the difference.
On Sun, 3 Mar 2013, Lee A. Stone wrote:
> Thanks Kyle for your suggestions and offering to work by phone or
> mail. I must admit years ago when I was starting in a community college
> they gave a direct " No" to installing what I'll speak of as a " talking
> computer" in their building. However I have been lucky over many years
> to have a Teacher a Friend who has stayed the cutting edge, taking me
> from Dos and nettamer to where I am today using the best of Archlinux
> Without this teacher I might still be back using dos. Let me also suggest
> if you do not already use an externalhard drive and I say this as I had a
> 9 year old computer that just up and died and from there no place to go
> except with a lot of help I have a new
> Acer pc which I love as it has all the connections you need right up on
> the top and up front. thanks for those who maintain and keep this list
> going. Lee On
> Sat, 2 Mar 2013,
> Kyle wrote:
>> I totally agree that the rename manpage is very hard to understand, especially
>> for those coming from Dos. It first makes a very uninformed assumption that
>> the average end-user knows what a Perl regular expression is, as well as
>> mostly assuming that the average end-user knows how to use Perl regular
>> expressions. This is why I suggested things like the Linux Documentation
>> Project and LinuxQuestions, as well as various distros' wikis and such. Also,
>> since Karen stated that she was willing to pay for specific individual help, I
>> suggested that although I can't be a human presence in the room, I can provide
>> such personalized individual support by phone, e-mail or other electronic
>> means, and can even attempt to translate specific manpages to something much
>> more like plain english. It would be a great thing, if it hasn't already been
>> done, to translate highly technical manpages to something less technical and
>> put them on some type of website, preferably something that already exists. I
>> don't mind helping with some of this,, as it is definitely something that is
> If you want to travel around the world and be invited to speak at a lot
> of different places, just write a Unix operating system.
> -- Linus Torvalds
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