just how much can you do with?

Karen Lewellen klewellen at shellworld.net
Sun Mar 3 15:17:22 UTC 2013

Hi Tony,
Sorry thought I shared that.
I am in Toronto.
I tend to agree on the lug, wrote one when I was first getting the box 
without success, with someone on the main debian list sending me another 
address for them.
Frankly that puts some of these other methods to the test.  can someone 
who has no seasoning in speech and the like take all these manuals and use 
them effortlessly enough to  teach someone else?
consider that anyone at any time may find themselves in a circumstance 
where suddenly they must use adaptive tools...and many need speech who 
do not experience sight loss.
yes on the Apple thing.  to my mind it serves two roles.  Helps with the t raining, and connects real people with real people.
some   who  may have no idea voice over is even in the products in the 
first place.
they in turn can educate others, deepening the use of the products etc.

I am behind on all the kind hand holding smiles.
I am appreciative none the less.


On Sun, 3 Mar 2013, Tony Baechler wrote:

> I totally understand where you're coming from.  You didn't say where you're 
> located.  I'm probably not in your area, but I might be willing to help if I 
> can.  It sounds like the best thing for you to do is find a local LUG, 
> explain your situation and ask for a volunteer to help.  I know of someone 
> who got very good results that way and was able to use Linux after having 
> training from a LUG member.  I've been tossing around the idea of a Linux 
> tutorial in audio, but it sounds like that isn't what you want either.  I 
> don't know what else to suggest, but by all means write me off list if you 
> want.  I would be glad to help if I can, regardless of the financial issues. 
> I certainly agree that you shouldn't pay for something which won't help you. 
> I wasn't aware of the Apple training.  Just the fact that you're posting here 
> is a good sign.  It's time to take the next step on the path of learning what 
> Linux can do for you.
> Again, I totally understand sticking with DOS.  The only reason why I quit 
> using Windows 98 is because my drive crashed, but I still miss plain old DOS. 
> That's why I have dosemu on my Linux system and still use my ancient DOS file 
> viewer.  I still miss the dial-up days of the BBS with my DOS comm program. 
> Yes, there are telnet BBSs, but they aren't the same.  If DOS really works 
> for you and does everything you need, maybe you should stay with it and learn 
> Linux in your free time.  Someone here had a good idea when they said to 
> install Linux on an extra machine and just try things.  I did that and it was 
> a great help.
> On 3/3/2013 6:36 AM, Karen Lewellen wrote:
>>  Hi folks,
>>  I have a more detailed reply to one of Tim's but let me speak to something
>>  here.
>>  I use DOS by choice because it works for me, works for lots of others too
>>  which is why it is still under development.
>>  Still, I would indeed happily pay for in person Linux training.
>>  I have zero interest in on the phone training because for my combination
>>  of
>>  needs, it will not do the job.
>>  One cannot train me via email either, one must be here noting what I am
>>  doing what I desire to do and why.
>>  It is like Lee said below. I sent two days with a professional learning
>>  what
>>  I needed...in 1988. I continue to successfully build on that in person
>>  training. I think I spent an additional four hours when I changed screen
>>  readers in the mid 90s or so, but still the training in person catered to
>>  my
>>  needs made the difference.
>>  That cannot be matched over the phone, certainly not worth an investment
>>  of
>>  financial resources for me at least.
>>  My detailed explanation for Tim might make that more clear.
>>  as one extra example.
>>  One can, if desired pay apple $99 and for a year you can sit down as often
>>  as you wish in person with an apple staff member and get hands on training
>>  with apple products.
>>  That to me is a worthwhile investment in learning both the speech and the
>>  operating system from those who designed them both.
>>  even Apple knows the difference.
>>  More later,
>>  Karen
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