some bees nest stirring, was just how much can you do with?

Karen Lewellen klewellen at
Mon Mar 4 20:48:15 UTC 2013

..but why do people think this cannot be done  in dos?
I am writing this email right now.
at the same time waiting for me to log off the Internet wordperfect is 
waiting for me, and I will go right back to the document I was working on.
As for downloading, granted I download first to shellworld then to my own 
computer now.  No reason though why I cannot do this especially having 
discovered things like elinks ported for dos, or using the lynx package 
for it.
As I see it though I can spend the  30 seconds it takes me to download to 
get a drink of water or something.
his for me is where having my own machine's built came in.  I have enough 
memory used in enough of a fsion that I can task swap fast enough.
I have no idea what you are downloading, but I have multi tasked as I am 
doing right now for ages.

On Mon, 4 Mar 2013, Christopher Chaltain wrote:

> On 03/04/2013 01:38 PM, Karen Lewellen wrote:
>>  ...You are avoiding the dos ports question councilor.
>>  I personally have never in all my years of  computing needed to do
>>  anything like the below.
>>  I have  two hands and two ears, and believe each task deserves my full
>>  attention.
>>  Besides I can do them so fast in dos anyway that by the time I needed to
>>  do this It is over.
>>  Multitasking strikes me as a windows thing because windows  works so
>>  badly.
>>  I can listen to a cd while working in dos now if I want to use the
>>  computer for that, but why?  It is what  my real stereo is for lol.
>>  ...but again this is totally only and uniquely me.
>>  I would never wish to suggest that anyone else on the planet computes
>>  like me.
>>  such is the  beauty of PC as in *personal* computer.
>>  Now speak to the ports of Linux things professor!
> I won't speak to the DOS ports point, but multitasking predates Windows by 
> quite a bit. It's been available on Unix probably since the beginning.
> I could not go back to DOS myself and put up with a single tasking system. I 
> want to be able to leave my place in an editor or an email message while I 
> look something up. I want to be able to start a download and go onto 
> something else while I'm waiting for the download to finish. I want to be 
> able to kick off a make or a compile that will take a while and go back to 
> checking my email. I want to kick off the conversion of a batch of .wmv files 
> to .mp3 files, and I don't want to have to sit around and wait for that to 
> finish.
> Windows is not multi-tasking because it does things so poorly. It's 
> multi-tasking because people want to run multiple tasks at the same time just 
> like you can in Unix and other operating systems.
>>  On Mon, 4 Mar 2013, Tim Chase wrote:
>> >  On March  4, 2013, Karen Lewellen wrote:
>> >  Still if elinks and mplayer exist ported for DOS, why go through
>> > >  the extreme mayhem of finding someone local enough to learn speakup
>> > >  and ora and so forth to teach me in the first place?
>> > 
>> >  Well, to be able to use Linux which excels at multi-tasking.  So
>> >  even on the console (without a GUI or Orca), you can run yasr/speakup
>> >  to read the screen, but then use either GNU "screen" or "tmux" to run
>> >  multiple virtual terminals within that one yasr/speakup session.  Thus
>> >  you can be browsing with lynx in one process (or more), reading email
>> >  in another, playing music in another, have your audio-mixer up all the
>> >  time in another (allowing you to adjust the audio on the fly while
>> >  other stuff is running), managing files in yet another, etc.  I
>> >  remember using DOS and having various TSR
>> >  (terminate-and-stay-resident) programs to fake multi-tasking but they
>> >  never worked very well for me.
>> > 
>> >  The virtual terminals are cheaply created, usually with the
>> >  tmux/screen prefix key followed by "c" (for "create").  You can then
>> >  switch between the virtual terminals by using the tmux/screen prefix
>> >  key followed either by "n" (next) or "p" (previous) or by directly
>> >  jumping to the numbered window with the corresponding number key.  In
>> >  both tmux and screen, the key mappings are also configurable.
>> > 
>> >  An added benefit of using tmux/screen is that the sessions can be
>> >  detached and then reconnected-to, even from another computer.  So you
>> >  might be downstairs working on the Linux box, then go upstairs to
>> >  your workhorse machine and telnet/ssh into your Linux box and
>> >  instruct it to reattach to the session and you can pick up right
>> >  where you left off.  All without losing any of your work or running
>> >  programs.
>> > 
>> >  -tim
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
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