a very challenging question?

Karen Lewellen klewellen at shellworld.net
Wed Dec 24 02:40:07 UTC 2014

1. I love shellworld and cannot conceive of needing  to change to an 
either or 
circumstance.  both is the only thing I will consider, if I will consider 
that at all given the Linux box issues.
having elinks working with java scripting in place alone is worth the price 
I pay  for shellworld.
Even my personal site is hosted here, and the years of flexible tools to 
hand is profoundly valuable professionally  to me, especially with no in 
town support.
  2. the dos ssh telnet package is called
created by the university of Waterloo in Ontario it makes use of the 
watpcp <spelling> library.  includes SFTP  as well.
I use it with my high speed provider, have for rather a few years now.
3.  the problem with the Linux box is that it is not configured for dsl at 
all, no ip address or anything *that I can tell*  as It has no screen 
reader that is usable, it
must be checked in person, by someone knowledgeable in debian.
Although I have  been on the debian discussion list for years, I have not 
found anyone in Toronto with either the skill, or the ability to understand 
the goal is just to correct this issue, not remove the command line 
configuration in place.
Rumors of a local Linux users group are, as Mark twain would say, grossly 
The person who put debian squeeze on this computer's hard  drive mailing me 
the drive did not include dsl configuring.  There is a dial up modem in the 
machine, but again no speech I can use.
I had a p3 computer built to house the drive, and while debian did 
recognize some of the hardware, I know too little and have too little in 
person talent to  learn anything more.
In fact my Engineer friend and I may convert that box to my main dos one 
leaving this older unit for whatever Linux effort I make.  The debian unit 
has been 
sitting here without a purpose for a long time, and I am working my main 
computer very hard indeed.

  if the ssh dos package interest 
you, I can send you a copy. Kare

  On Tue, 23 Dec 2014, Tim Chase wrote:

> On December 23, 2014, Karen Lewellen wrote:
>> However since I can ssh TELNET into shellworld using Dos and access
>> all the command line tools here with that speech, I cannot imagine
>> why the ssh TELNET process will not work the other way into
>> whatever this box becomes.
> I would expect that, if that's the way you're comfortable, that you
> could fairly readily set up a similar configuration of SSHing into
> your local Linux/BSD box instead of into shellworld.  It sounds like
> this is what you're already trying to do but having some sort of
> difficulty.  However, I'm not sure what the issue is.  The two things
> that come to mind are
> 1) if you really are telnetting from DOS (it's been a long time since
> I've used pure DOS as the core operating system), I remember being
> able to telnet but not SSH.  They're different protocols, so unless
> there's a SSH program for DOS (there could well be, I'm just ignorant
> in that department), you really do want to telnet.  If this is the
> case, you'd want to ensure that the telnet daemon is running and
> listening for connections on your Linux box.  It's not secure, but if
> you're only running over your local network, it shouldn't expose you
> greatly.
> 2) if you do have a SSH client in DOS and still can't connect, it
> sounds like your Linux box may not be running "sshd" (the SSH daemon).
> Or, maybe you *are* able to connect to your Linux box and I'm just
> mis-understanding again.
>> Nothing personal, but I have zero reason to buy a box for a
>> platform that has yet to prove worth investing in otherwise.
>> Perhaps in time, but first things first, being able to do something
>> with the Linux box presently holding up the speakers for my DOS one.
> Ah, if you already have one then, no worries or need to buy any
> additional machine.  I must have misinterpreted something you wrote
> which lead me to believe that you didn't have any machine locally to
> monkey with.
> -tim
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