a very challenging question?

Wed Dec 24 20:40:00 UTC 2014

Ok, but how does one install freebsd on a physical machine?
I have a box here I would like to put freebsd on to use as a fileserver.
It might be possible to install via ssh, but if doable it would require me to blindly activate networking and sshd.

-----Original Message-----
From: blinux-list-bounces at redhat.com [mailto:blinux-list-bounces at redhat.com] On Behalf Of Kelly Prescott
Sent: 24 December 2014 14:08
To: Linux for blind general discussion
Subject: RE: a very challenging question?

I install all the bsd  stuff all the time without assistance.
Like I said with qemu you just run it in a text console and speakup reads the text generated.
installation and regular interaction works fine.

kp

On Wed, 24 Dec 2014, Øyvind Lode wrote:

> I would like to try out freebsd, openbsd and the other *bsds but my understanding is that I cannot install them without sighted assistance.
> I currently use debian as a firewall, one file server, web server etc at home.
> All text mode only mainly administrated from windows over ssh but access to the console is important if networking is down and so on.
> On the console I use speakup with software speech.
> I have no interest in running X on these systems.
> At work I am the admin of some ubuntu servers which I administrer via ssh and these boxes is of course text mode only as well.
> *bsd is very good for all networking related services like firewalling/routing, fileservers etc due to a better ip stack.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blinux-list-bounces at redhat.com 
> [mailto:blinux-list-bounces at redhat.com] On Behalf Of Kelly Prescott
> Sent: 24 December 2014 04:47
> To: Linux for blind general discussion
> Subject: Re: a very challenging question?
>
> I run freebsd, netbsd, and openbsd all the time.
> my setup looks like this:
> I run arch and use qemu for my virtual machines.
> All the bsd machines are virtual.
> I console to all of them and Linux Speakup handles the consoles as 
> they are just text output.
> I can post more info if anyone is interested.
>
> -- Kelly Prescott
>
>
>
> On Tue, 23 Dec 2014, Tim Chase wrote:
>
>> I haven't tested FreeBSD running any accessibility software locally, 
>> accessing FreeBSD boxes mostly via SSH. Speakup is a Linux-specific 
>> set of patches and thus unavailable on FreeBSD.  But the Speech 
>> Dispatcher daemon (speechd) appears to be in the FreeBSD ports 
>> collection, as do both Festival and Flite soft-synths, along with 
>> Orca and yasr.  Both Orca and yasr should be able to connect to 
>> speechd, and that should be able to talk to either of the soft-synths 
>> above or to any supported hardware synth.  I'm hoping to acquire an 
>> older netbook that my sister-in-law intends to discard, in which case 
>> I can try throwing FreeBSD on there and test accessibility options 
>> but it might not be until sometime in the new year.
>>
>> Regarding yasr and single consoles, might I recommend that you 
>> investigate "tmux" or possibly GNU Screen?  You can spawn yasr, and 
>> then as your first command, launch screen/tmux to multiplex multiple 
>> sessions into that one screen-reader session.  One of the nice things 
>> is that you can detach from your active session and then reattach via 
>> SSH to have all your windows/shells as you left them.  Once you're 
>> done accessing it remotely, you can detach, then reattach back within 
>> yasr and everything is still as you left it.  It's awesomely powerful 
>> and sounds like the perfect solution to your annoyance with the 
>> single-console nature of yasr.  While yasr may be a bit old and 
>> dusty, it's done most of what I've wanted to do when I've poked at it.
>>
>> I wrote up a brief explanation/tutorial on tmux for the Raspberry VI 
>> mailing list which Mike Ray posted at the wiki:
>>
>> http://www.raspberryvi.org/wiki/doku.php/tmux
>>
>> If you have any more questions, I can't guarantee that I'd know the 
>> answers, but I'd be more than happy to chase them down to the best of 
>> my abilities (and hardware)
>>
>> Hope this helps.
>>
>> -tim
>>
>>
>> On December 23, 2014, Kyle wrote:
>>> I've wanted to play with FreeBSD or another sort of *real* BSD that 
>>> hasn't been tainted by Apple for quite a few years. However, I am 
>>> stopped thus far by a lack of a fully functional screen reader.
>>> GhostBSD is really nice, as it is said to run the MATE desktop now, 
>>> but the problem is that Orca doesn't speak because of a Python 
>>> conflict that causes it to fail to talk to speech-dispatcher. This 
>>> would limit me to the command line, where the only full-featured 
>>> screen readers run on Linux only as far as I am aware. Speakup is a 
>>> set of modules that are specific to the Linux kernel, and SBL as far 
>>> as I know only runs on Linux. The only other choice then would be 
>>> YASR, which is rather old and is probably unmaintained now, and runs 
>>> as a subshell rather than as a system daemon, so one must login 
>>> without speech and run the YSR subshell manually in order to get a 
>>> somewhat decent screen reader for only a single virtual console. 
>>> This isn't really a problem if you intend to run your FreeBSD 
>>> machine remotely over ssh or telnet, but it makes running it 
>>> directly on your machine next to impossible. Please do correct me if 
>>> I happen to be wrong, as I would immediately try to set it up here, 
>>> at least on a virtual machine, and I could then support BSD as well 
>>> as Linux in the computer business that I run. -- "Don't judge my 
>>> disability until you are able to see my ability." ~Kyle:
>>> https://kyle.tk/ My chunk of the internet:
>>> https://chunkhost.com/r/Kyle
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