a very challenging question?

Karen Lewellen klewellen at shellworld.net
Sun Dec 28 22:58:10 UTC 2014

What eyeballs?
As stated, *finding knowledgeable sighted help here in Toronto  Linux wise 
is the main 
although there are a couple of locals who fall into the build a new house 
for a dirty carpet arena.
You  are not in this country as I recall.
although your point about media motivates me to share a new dos solution 
I learned  about.
will do that in another email, the program called ytrak, generates plain 
html pages of the links embedded in youtube materials allowing one to 
choose what you desire downloading, no scripting required.

ssh2021b has an amazing  sftp feature which lets me create a list of 
download file tasks and basically walk away.
I configure the process and have media downloaded form shellworld to my main 
computer all the time.

On Sun, 28 Dec 2014, Tim Chase wrote:

> On December 26, 2014, Karen Lewellen wrote:
>> Now, the *only* real disadvantage to shellworld is not being able
>> to directly access, as in follow a link to and reach, media
>> presentation content.
> If your DOS SSH/SFTP package also came with an "scp" ("secure copy")
> command, and you have enough disk-space in your shellworld account
> (it doesn't sound like that would be an issue), you can download the
> media on the shellworld box and then copy it back to your box with
> something like
> scp karen at shellworld.net:/home/karen/my_file.mp3 c:\mp3s\
> for local playback.  That assumes you have an appropriate media
> player on your local machine.
>> That is the only  function another open source box can present,
>> assuming that my ssh tellneting to it would not present the same
>> barrier.
> Well, you'd be able to download it to your Linux/BSD box and then use
> the playback functionalities to listen to the media there.  You'd
> just have to plug your headphones/stereo into the Linux/BSD computer.
>>> - security of keeping your data locally rather than entrusting it
>>> to some other 3rd party
>> Are you kidding?
>> Shellworld does backups nightly, and I have lost data here once in
>> over a decade.
> Security is not just backups but also the ability for others to read
> your email and monitor your communications.  I don't know
> shellworld's admins and they could be fine upstanding people with a
> strong moral code.  Or they could be sneaky jerks that read
> everyone's email and eventually end up blackmailing you.  As
> mentioned, I have my email and website hosted with a service provider
> so clearly I'm not overly paranoid on this.  If I want to keep prying
> eyes from seeing things, I just encrypt my communications before they
> leave my local machine.
>> Still the modem /rooter combination sitting on my desk solves the
>> problem of any other items needing to connect.
> Okay, if it really is a router, the Linux box should work just fine.
>> the  automatic assumption that you *must* build an entirely new
>> house, there way, even if you just have a spot in your carpet.
> Bah, yes there are some who go that route and want everything new. But
> on this end of the email, you've got someone who has been nursing
> along several boxes for over a decade and they are still serviceable
> (no longer my main machines, but they work in a pinch).  Bring on the
> duct-tape (or the Resolve if you want to maintain the carpet analogy).
> (grins)
>> This is not a remote project, networking must be done in person
>> first.
> If you've got the fortitude to keep trying, I'm game to keep trying
> even though I can't get my hands on the machine.  If you want to
> surrender, feel free to shrug and stop reading now.  If however you
> want to keep trying, I've dumped a couple more ideas below to see if
> we can get closer to a useful solution.
> Presuming that your router is like most home routers, it should be
> pretty safe to assume that it hands out IP addresses via DHCP.  And
> most Linux installations default to trying DHCP when the networking
> comes up. So my next curiosity would be to try and find out if the
> Linux box is connected to the network, but at some unknown address
> (which you'd need to know in order to SSH into it).
> If you can get some eyeballs on the Linux box and have them run the
> following command, it might help diagnose what's going on.  First,
> find out what the IP address of the box is.
>  /sbin/ifconfig eth0
> which should contain a line that reads "inet addr" which is likely
> 192.168.X.Y where X is usually some small number such as 0 or 1, and
> Y is a number greater than 1 and less than 255.  For example's sake,
> I'll pretend that gives you "".  If the "ifconfig"
> doesn't return an IP address then something was seriously
> misconfigured when the Linux box was set up, or there's some sort of
> hardware failure. If it does successfully have an IP address, that's
> what you'd want to ssh from your DOS machine.
> The second thing to have eyeballs check is if the SSH daemon is
> running. This can be checked on the Linux machine by issuing
>  ps ax | grep ssh[d]
> If this returns any results (usually a line containing
> "/usr/sbin/sshd"), then the SSH daemon should be running and you
> should be able to connect to it. If it got an address and "sshd"
> isn't running, then it would need to be installed:
>  sudo apt-get install openssh-server
> Assuming the Linux box was set up to give you a user-name of "karen",
> you should be able to use
>  ssh karen at
> to connect.
> Let me know how far any of that gets you (smiles)
> -tim
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