Are w3c Standards Only for windows Sites-and-users?

Jude DaShiell jdashiel at shellworld.net
Tue Jul 1 14:10:00 UTC 2014


Only if windows browsers and windows are the only software and operating 
systems permitted to connect to the internet.

On Mon, 16 Jun 2014, John G. Heim wrote:

> But access for all  doesn't mean a web site has to support all browsers. You
> have a right to use whatever browser yu like but a web site doesn't have to
> work with your choice of browser.  By no means do I mean to criticize your
> decision to stick with speakup and lynx but that's a decision you've made. You
> can't expect web sites to accomodate your decision.
> 
> Notethat what I say above is not the same (logically) as saying that it's okay
> for web designers to write for specific browsers. That's not what I am saying
> and logically, it's not the same thing. As a practical matter, your choice of
> browser and screen reader will always be limited by the technical issues
> involved with making sites accessible. Web designers have a right to code
> their sites for browsers that are kept up to date technically.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 06/13/2014 11:23 PM, Hart Larry wrote:
> > Wow, I suppose we in Linux may need our own version of a Civil Rights Bill.
> > HEheHEheHEheHE
> > Ther is a large Grocery chain which was involved in a settlement-and-just
> > upgraded, or supposedly made its site accessible to all shoppers.
> > Until March of 2010 I was able to shop this site in Linux, maybe not
> > perfect, but if I were careful I filled out everything fine. Beginning in
> > April 2010, no matter which Linux browser or JAWS I couldn't shop any more.
> > In their separate access site, their help FAQ said they did not use any
> > complicated scripting such as javascript or css, however, in the
> > source-code, there they were.
> > Well, now April 30 has come-and-gone, I still cannot shop in either L Y N X
> > or E L I N K S. When shopping by eile I notice items in a catagory, but none
> > of them have any links to add to my cart.
> > So today intouch with a CSR, who found it, I can try chrome vox or fire vox.
> > I tried looking for these with an "apt-get" in Debian, cannot find. Are
> > these only for graphical browsers such as in an x11 display?
> > I was told that w3c requirements may give them choices of either html,
> > javascript, or css?
> > So if they are permitted to write a site which would not work for many
> > users, if they were picking 2 of those 3 choices, how is that access for
> > all?
> > So many times especially during the last 2years, an onis is always on myself
> > to possibly run windows  or maybe ask asistance of some1 running a graphical
> > setup.
> > > From what I hear, L Y N X will maybe never have javascript support.
> > So what happens next? If indeede the standards give site owners leeway in
> > leaving out a group of users, as well as a potential revenue loss. Or even
> > worse, what happens if they drop delivery because of lack of shoppers?
> > Thanks alot for listening-and-I welcom all of your ideas-and-suggestions.
> > I did try Orca many years ago but it was `quite slow, but also even in
> > Speakup in software speech, the volume was lo in I B M tts. I am running
> > Speakup with a DecTalk U S B.
> > Hart
> >
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