linux on msi computers

Mon Apr 18 10:53:34 UTC 2016

I would choose the newer model, simply to be future proof, i.e. not 
needing to by a new machine for many years to come and also to get better 
performance. Of course, even a slightly older system will be good to go 
for many years to come.

If you choose to buy the older system there's no need to remove Win8 
before upgrading to Windows 10. You can still upgrade to win10 for free 
from within win8 until later this summer when the free upgrade offer 
expires, although you can still upgrade from within Windows. If you want a 
so-called pristine installation, that is, a super duper clean Windows 
installation, you cane make system restore USB stick from within Win10, 
then do a system restore from that stick, which would get you a clean 
win10 installation. In win10 you can even do a system restore from the 
existing files on the hard drive, which I think is a great feature of 
win10. After I upgraded from Win8.1 to Win10 I have had no problems 
though, so either that proces is pretty stable or I'm just lucky :).

I haven't heard of any problems with Linux on newer architecture, but if 
there are issues, they are most certainly going to be resolved in the near 
future. After all, Linux wants to be on top of development, and people 
will of course want to be able to run it on newer hardware. It could also 
be a matter of BIOS firmware updates, which would make a system more 
stable for all OS:es. If one wants to be as future-proof as possible, on 
could wait till the next version of one's chosen distro is released. 
Ubuntu usually releases in late april/early may; the next Fedora has a 
release later in May I think.

hth,
Tobias

On Sun, 17 Apr 2016, Kristoffer Gustafsson wrote:

> Hi.
> I think the computer has that.
> but that can be removed I think if i buy a new copy of windows and install that.
> can't I install linux if i have uefi?
> /Kristoffer
>
> 2016-04-17 23:14 GMT+02:00, mattias <mjonsson1986 at gmail.com>:
>> kristoffer i hope the computer dont have uefi
>> if it have you have trouble
>>
>> Den 2016-04-17 kl. 23:10, skrev Tobias Vinteus:
>>> Hi,
>>> I'm currently running Fedora 23 on an MSI X99S Gaming 7 motherboard
>>> motherboard. I have no problems to report as of this writing.
>>>
>>> The only thing I don't like about the integrated RealTek sound device
>>> is it's Microphon input which is downright noisy and dreadful, but
>>> maybe the laptop comes with a descent built-in mic.
>>>
>>> Goodluck,
>>> Tobias
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, 17 Apr 2016, Kristoffer Gustafsson wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi.
>>>> I'm thinking about buying a msi laptop.
>>>> They have a lot of audio ports, it is because I want it.
>>>> Has any of you used msi computers with linux?
>>>> /Kristoffer
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Kristoffer Gustafsson
>>>> Salängsgatan 7a
>>>> tel:033-12 60 93
>>>> mobil: 0730-500934
>>>>
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> mobil: 0730-500934
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On Mon, 18 Apr 2016, mattias jonsson wrote:

> do you meen this computer
> MSI GT72S 6QE 057NE Dominator Pro G
>
> Den 2016-04-18 kl. 08:35, skrev Kristoffer Gustafsson:
>> Hi.
>> Ok, I have two choices.
>> I could buy a msi gt72s with the latest core i7 6:th generation with
>> ddr4 memory.
>> and I could buy an msi gt72 with an older processor. a core i7 4:th 
> generation.
>> the newer has win 10 preinstalled, and the older win 8.1
>> I'll remove win 8 and upgrade to ten and then install linux.
>> I will never run win 8.
>> what do you think I shall choose?
>> I can't decide.
>> could you help me with this?
>>
>> I've heard that there can be problem running linux on the new processors 
> tool.
>> /Kristoffer
>>
>> 2016-04-18 4:09 GMT+02:00, Christopher Chaltain <chaltain at gmail.com>:
>>> I haven't installed and booted Ubuntu on a UEFI system myself, but like
>>> I said, from what I've read, it can be done. Do you have links to
>>> articles that describe this limitation? If not, I'd encourage others to
>>> do their own research.
>>>
>>> On 17/04/16 19:56, mattias wrote:
>>>> yes
>>>> i can only get a red warning for ubuntu on uefi
>>>> this on a acer e3-112
>>>> using uefi
>>>>    you can install ubuntu but not boot it
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Den 2016-04-18 kl. 02:38, skrev Christopher Chaltain:
>>>>> Everything I've read says that Ubuntu supported secure boot since
>>>>> 12.04 and UEFI since 15.04, although there are plenty of articles on
>>>>> the web talking about getting older versions of Ubuntu, such as 14.04
>>>>> installed on a UEFI system with Windows 8 or Windows 10 already
>>>>> installed. This is one of many such articles:
>>>>> 
> http://www.everydaylinuxuser.com/2015/11/how-to-install-ubuntu-linux-alongside.html
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 17/04/16 17:12, mattias wrote:
>>>>>> i can only talk for ubuntu
>>>>>> if you install ubuntu on a uefi based computer
>>>>>> the install finish but dont boot
>>>>>> if i remember correct fedora will boot
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Den 2016-04-17 kl. 23:26, skrev Kristoffer Gustafsson:
>>>>>>> Hi.
>>>>>>> I think the computer has that.
>>>>>>> but that can be removed I think if i buy a new copy of windows and
>>>>>>> install that.
>>>>>>> can't I install linux if i have uefi?
>>>>>>> /Kristoffer
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2016-04-17 23:14 GMT+02:00, mattias <mjonsson1986 at gmail.com>:
>>>>>>>> kristoffer i hope the computer dont have uefi
>>>>>>>> if it have you have trouble
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Den 2016-04-17 kl. 23:10, skrev Tobias Vinteus:
>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>> I'm currently running Fedora 23 on an MSI X99S Gaming 7 motherboard
>>>>>>>>> motherboard. I have no problems to report as of this writing.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The only thing I don't like about the integrated RealTek sound 
> device
>>>>>>>>> is it's Microphon input which is downright noisy and dreadful, but
>>>>>>>>> maybe the laptop comes with a descent built-in mic.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Goodluck,
>>>>>>>>> Tobias
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 17 Apr 2016, Kristoffer Gustafsson wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hi.
>>>>>>>>>> I'm thinking about buying a msi laptop.
>>>>>>>>>> They have a lot of audio ports, it is because I want it.
>>>>>>>>>> Has any of you used msi computers with linux?
>>>>>>>>>> /Kristoffer
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>> Kristoffer Gustafsson
>>>>>>>>>> Salängsgatan 7a
>>>>>>>>>> tel:033-12 60 93
>>>>>>>>>> mobil: 0730-500934
>>>>>>>>>>
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On Mon, 18 Apr 2016, Kristoffer Gustafsson wrote:

> Yes, that one.
>
> 2016-04-18 11:20 GMT+02:00, mattias jonsson <mjonsson1986 at gmail.com>:
>> do you meen this computer
>> MSI GT72S 6QE 057NE Dominator Pro G
>>
>> Den 2016-04-18 kl. 08:35, skrev Kristoffer Gustafsson:
>>> Hi.
>>> Ok, I have two choices.
>>> I could buy a msi gt72s with the latest core i7 6:th generation with
>>> ddr4 memory.
>>> and I could buy an msi gt72 with an older processor. a core i7 4:th
>>> generation.
>>> the newer has win 10 preinstalled, and the older win 8.1
>>> I'll remove win 8 and upgrade to ten and then install linux.
>>> I will never run win 8.
>>> what do you think I shall choose?
>>> I can't decide.
>>> could you help me with this?
>>>
>>> I've heard that there can be problem running linux on the new processors
>>> tool.
>>> /Kristoffer
>>>
>>> 2016-04-18 4:09 GMT+02:00, Christopher Chaltain <chaltain at gmail.com>:
>>>> I haven't installed and booted Ubuntu on a UEFI system myself, but like
>>>> I said, from what I've read, it can be done. Do you have links to
>>>> articles that describe this limitation? If not, I'd encourage others to
>>>> do their own research.
>>>>
>>>> On 17/04/16 19:56, mattias wrote:
>>>>> yes
>>>>> i can only get a red warning for ubuntu on uefi
>>>>> this on a acer e3-112
>>>>> using uefi
>>>>>    you can install ubuntu but not boot it
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Den 2016-04-18 kl. 02:38, skrev Christopher Chaltain:
>>>>>> Everything I've read says that Ubuntu supported secure boot since
>>>>>> 12.04 and UEFI since 15.04, although there are plenty of articles on
>>>>>> the web talking about getting older versions of Ubuntu, such as 14.04
>>>>>> installed on a UEFI system with Windows 8 or Windows 10 already
>>>>>> installed. This is one of many such articles:
>>>>>> http://www.everydaylinuxuser.com/2015/11/how-to-install-ubuntu-linux-alongside.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 17/04/16 17:12, mattias wrote:
>>>>>>> i can only talk for ubuntu
>>>>>>> if you install ubuntu on a uefi based computer
>>>>>>> the install finish but dont boot
>>>>>>> if i remember correct fedora will boot
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Den 2016-04-17 kl. 23:26, skrev Kristoffer Gustafsson:
>>>>>>>> Hi.
>>>>>>>> I think the computer has that.
>>>>>>>> but that can be removed I think if i buy a new copy of windows and
>>>>>>>> install that.
>>>>>>>> can't I install linux if i have uefi?
>>>>>>>> /Kristoffer
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 2016-04-17 23:14 GMT+02:00, mattias <mjonsson1986 at gmail.com>:
>>>>>>>>> kristoffer i hope the computer dont have uefi
>>>>>>>>> if it have you have trouble
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Den 2016-04-17 kl. 23:10, skrev Tobias Vinteus:
>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>> I'm currently running Fedora 23 on an MSI X99S Gaming 7 motherboard
>>>>>>>>>> motherboard. I have no problems to report as of this writing.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The only thing I don't like about the integrated RealTek sound
>>>>>>>>>> device
>>>>>>>>>> is it's Microphon input which is downright noisy and dreadful, but
>>>>>>>>>> maybe the laptop comes with a descent built-in mic.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Goodluck,
>>>>>>>>>> Tobias
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 17 Apr 2016, Kristoffer Gustafsson wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Hi.
>>>>>>>>>>> I'm thinking about buying a msi laptop.
>>>>>>>>>>> They have a lot of audio ports, it is because I want it.
>>>>>>>>>>> Has any of you used msi computers with linux?
>>>>>>>>>>> /Kristoffer
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>> Kristoffer Gustafsson
>>>>>>>>>>> Salängsgatan 7a
>>>>>>>>>>> tel:033-12 60 93
>>>>>>>>>>> mobil: 0730-500934
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>>> Blinux-list mailing list
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>>>> chaltain at Gmail
>>>>
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> -- 
> Kristoffer Gustafsson
> Salängsgatan 7a
> tel:033-12 60 93
> mobil: 0730-500934
>
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On Mon, 18 Apr 2016, mattias jonsson wrote:

> what 20000 or something
>
> Den 2016-04-18 kl. 11:39, skrev Kristoffer Gustafsson:
>> Yes, that one.
>>
>> 2016-04-18 11:20 GMT+02:00, mattias jonsson <mjonsson1986 at gmail.com>:
>>> do you meen this computer
>>> MSI GT72S 6QE 057NE Dominator Pro G
>>>
>>> Den 2016-04-18 kl. 08:35, skrev Kristoffer Gustafsson:
>>>> Hi.
>>>> Ok, I have two choices.
>>>> I could buy a msi gt72s with the latest core i7 6:th generation with
>>>> ddr4 memory.
>>>> and I could buy an msi gt72 with an older processor. a core i7 4:th
>>>> generation.
>>>> the newer has win 10 preinstalled, and the older win 8.1
>>>> I'll remove win 8 and upgrade to ten and then install linux.
>>>> I will never run win 8.
>>>> what do you think I shall choose?
>>>> I can't decide.
>>>> could you help me with this?
>>>>
>>>> I've heard that there can be problem running linux on the new processors
>>>> tool.
>>>> /Kristoffer
>>>>
>>>> 2016-04-18 4:09 GMT+02:00, Christopher Chaltain <chaltain at gmail.com>:
>>>>> I haven't installed and booted Ubuntu on a UEFI system myself, but like
>>>>> I said, from what I've read, it can be done. Do you have links to
>>>>> articles that describe this limitation? If not, I'd encourage others to
>>>>> do their own research.
>>>>>
>>>>> On 17/04/16 19:56, mattias wrote:
>>>>>> yes
>>>>>> i can only get a red warning for ubuntu on uefi
>>>>>> this on a acer e3-112
>>>>>> using uefi
>>>>>>     you can install ubuntu but not boot it
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Den 2016-04-18 kl. 02:38, skrev Christopher Chaltain:
>>>>>>> Everything I've read says that Ubuntu supported secure boot since
>>>>>>> 12.04 and UEFI since 15.04, although there are plenty of articles on
>>>>>>> the web talking about getting older versions of Ubuntu, such as 14.04
>>>>>>> installed on a UEFI system with Windows 8 or Windows 10 already
>>>>>>> installed. This is one of many such articles:
>>>>>>> 
> http://www.everydaylinuxuser.com/2015/11/how-to-install-ubuntu-linux-alongside.html
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 17/04/16 17:12, mattias wrote:
>>>>>>>> i can only talk for ubuntu
>>>>>>>> if you install ubuntu on a uefi based computer
>>>>>>>> the install finish but dont boot
>>>>>>>> if i remember correct fedora will boot
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Den 2016-04-17 kl. 23:26, skrev Kristoffer Gustafsson:
>>>>>>>>> Hi.
>>>>>>>>> I think the computer has that.
>>>>>>>>> but that can be removed I think if i buy a new copy of windows and
>>>>>>>>> install that.
>>>>>>>>> can't I install linux if i have uefi?
>>>>>>>>> /Kristoffer
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 2016-04-17 23:14 GMT+02:00, mattias <mjonsson1986 at gmail.com>:
>>>>>>>>>> kristoffer i hope the computer dont have uefi
>>>>>>>>>> if it have you have trouble
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Den 2016-04-17 kl. 23:10, skrev Tobias Vinteus:
>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>> I'm currently running Fedora 23 on an MSI X99S Gaming 7 
> motherboard
>>>>>>>>>>> motherboard. I have no problems to report as of this writing.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> The only thing I don't like about the integrated RealTek sound
>>>>>>>>>>> device
>>>>>>>>>>> is it's Microphon input which is downright noisy and dreadful, but
>>>>>>>>>>> maybe the laptop comes with a descent built-in mic.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Goodluck,
>>>>>>>>>>> Tobias
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 17 Apr 2016, Kristoffer Gustafsson wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi.
>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm thinking about buying a msi laptop.
>>>>>>>>>>>> They have a lot of audio ports, it is because I want it.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Has any of you used msi computers with linux?
>>>>>>>>>>>> /Kristoffer
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>> Kristoffer Gustafsson
>>>>>>>>>>>> Salängsgatan 7a
>>>>>>>>>>>> tel:033-12 60 93
>>>>>>>>>>>> mobil: 0730-500934
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>>>> Blinux-list mailing list
>>>>>>>>>>>> Blinux-list at redhat.com
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>>>>> chaltain at Gmail
>>>>>
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