console speech

Alonzo Cuellar mariachiac at gmail.com
Mon May 30 20:46:30 UTC 2016


Hello,

I understand that. whhich is why I stated usign gnome or any type of x 
environment is where it benefits the user to use Pule. I've not used 
Alsa. I've only used it to install Arch Linux with Talkinc Arch. I don't 
see a problem with only using Alsa. However, I'd think more and more 
apps are requiring Pulse these days.

It just seems that one would have to do a lot of work to get rid of 
pulse if wanting an Alsa only system. I've not tried the approach with 
not having pulse audio loading drivers. and having alsa with dmix not 
having Pulse take control of the audio device.


alonzo



On 05/30/2016 09:27 AM, Jude DaShiell wrote:
> Not in the case of talkingarchlinux.  That distro has a script for 
> automatic sound card discovery and it's able to install a system in a 
> way where the default will be usb speakers when the installation is 
> complete.
> Kalilinux which uses pulseaudio cannot find usb speakers and match 
> what talkingarchlinux can do now.  The pulseaudio system is a control 
> system not anything that works on low level stuff.  A couple sighted 
> people who built me a new computer and installed kalilinux on it for 
> me and myself later verified all of this.
>
> On Sun, 29 May 2016, Alonzo Cuellar wrote:
>
>> Date: Sun, 29 May 2016 13:53:28
>> From: Alonzo Cuellar <mariachiac at gmail.com>
>> Reply-To: Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list at redhat.com>
>> To: blinux-list at redhat.com
>> Subject: Re: console speech
>>
>> hello,
>>
>> My thoughts. Pulse Audio has more functionality then Alsa. Alsa is 
>> great for a low level system meaning only command line access. If you 
>> run a graphical environment you will not be able to get discovery of 
>> sound automatically unless of course you write some sort of scripts 
>> for Alsa.
>>
>> I happen to think though that when Pulse Audio was beginning to be 
>> upon the Linux community most of us who used Espeakup relied on Alsa 
>> heaviely. Now its a bit of a problem for a user who wants the desktop 
>> experience.
>>
>> Thats just what I see.
>>
>>
>> alonzo
>>
>>
>> On 05/26/2016 09:32 AM, Jude DaShiell wrote:
>>> Once pulseaudio is purged, try powering off the system then start 
>>> the system up again and find out what happens.  If everything works, 
>>> the system will reconfigure to account for the absence of pulseaudio 
>>> and you should have speech back again once that happens.
>>>
>>> On Thu, 26 May 2016, Mark Peveto wrote:
>>>
>>>> Date: Thu, 26 May 2016 03:32:44
>>>> From: Mark Peveto <southernprince73 at gmail.com>
>>>> Reply-To: Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list at redhat.com>
>>>> To: Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list at redhat.com>
>>>> Subject: Re: console speech
>>>>
>>>> Tried, but it totally jacked up my sound after that.  I'm having to 
>>>> reinstall again.
>>>>
>>>> On 05/25/2016 01:58 PM, Jude DaShiell wrote:
>>>>> Mark has to get rid of pulseaudio and all of its dependencies.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, 25 May 2016, Willem van der Walt wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Date: Wed, 25 May 2016 14:10:06
>>>>>> From: Willem van der Walt <wvdwalt at csir.co.za>
>>>>>> Reply-To: Linux for blind general discussion 
>>>>>> <blinux-list at redhat.com>
>>>>>> To: Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list at redhat.com>
>>>>>> Subject: Re: console speech
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Get rid of pulseaudio.
>>>>>> You should be able to google how to do that on your distro.
>>>>>> HTH, Willem
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, 25 May 2016, Mark Peveto wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm at my witt's end!  I'm working with f123, a manjaro based 
>>>>>>> distro, and have had really good luck, until it comes to console 
>>>>>>> speech using espeakup.
>>>>>>> It'll speak for about 30 seconds, then I get a pulseaudio error 
>>>>>>> that looks like this.
>>>>>>> assirtion 'p' failed at pulse/simple.c:273, function 
>>>>>>> pa_simple_write(). Aborting.
>>>>>>> It's shot me down on every manjaro based distro I've tried. 
>>>>>>> Others have seemed to get speech in console, but I can't seem to 
>>>>>>> make it happen. Vinux has
>>>>>>> it, and if i have to i'll put vinux on both machines, but that 
>>>>>>> seems a little nuts.  I like vinux, and am using it now, but 
>>>>>>> would also like the
>>>>>>> opportunity to work with these other distros.  I've been able to 
>>>>>>> install my favorite programs, but trying to use them from a 
>>>>>>> terminal just doesn't read
>>>>>>> well, so I need the console.
>>>>>>> Oh, and before someone says google it, I've done that for a 
>>>>>>> week. Nothing helps.  LOL!
>>>>>>> Mark Peveto
>>>>>>> Registered Linux user number 600552
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