console speech

Jude DaShiell jdashiel at panix.com
Mon May 30 20:55:45 UTC 2016 

Martin MacCormack has done so and he's not the only one to have done it 
either.  Probably what will benefit many will be an alsa linux wiki 
describing circumstances under which whether using command line or 
g.u.i. interfaces it's advantageous to uninstall pulseaudio and set 
everything to work with alsa.  Then installers will be able to read and 
act accordingly.

On Mon, 30 May 2016, Alonzo Cuellar wrote:

> Date: Mon, 30 May 2016 16:46:30
> From: Alonzo Cuellar <mariachiac at gmail.com>
> Reply-To: Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list at redhat.com>
> To: blinux-list at redhat.com
> Subject: Re: console speech
> 
> Hello,
>
> I understand that. whhich is why I stated usign gnome or any type of x 
> environment is where it benefits the user to use Pule. I've not used Alsa. 
> I've only used it to install Arch Linux with Talkinc Arch. I don't see a 
> problem with only using Alsa. However, I'd think more and more apps are 
> requiring Pulse these days.
>
> It just seems that one would have to do a lot of work to get rid of pulse if 
> wanting an Alsa only system. I've not tried the approach with not having 
> pulse audio loading drivers. and having alsa with dmix not having Pulse take 
> control of the audio device.
>
>
> alonzo
>
>
>
> On 05/30/2016 09:27 AM, Jude DaShiell wrote:
>> Not in the case of talkingarchlinux.  That distro has a script for 
>> automatic sound card discovery and it's able to install a system in a way 
>> where the default will be usb speakers when the installation is complete.
>> Kalilinux which uses pulseaudio cannot find usb speakers and match what 
>> talkingarchlinux can do now.  The pulseaudio system is a control system not 
>> anything that works on low level stuff.  A couple sighted people who built 
>> me a new computer and installed kalilinux on it for me and myself later 
>> verified all of this.
>> 
>> On Sun, 29 May 2016, Alonzo Cuellar wrote:
>> 
>>> Date: Sun, 29 May 2016 13:53:28
>>> From: Alonzo Cuellar <mariachiac at gmail.com>
>>> Reply-To: Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list at redhat.com>
>>> To: blinux-list at redhat.com
>>> Subject: Re: console speech
>>> 
>>> hello,
>>> 
>>> My thoughts. Pulse Audio has more functionality then Alsa. Alsa is great 
>>> for a low level system meaning only command line access. If you run a 
>>> graphical environment you will not be able to get discovery of sound 
>>> automatically unless of course you write some sort of scripts for Alsa.
>>> 
>>> I happen to think though that when Pulse Audio was beginning to be upon 
>>> the Linux community most of us who used Espeakup relied on Alsa heaviely. 
>>> Now its a bit of a problem for a user who wants the desktop experience.
>>> 
>>> Thats just what I see.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> alonzo
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 05/26/2016 09:32 AM, Jude DaShiell wrote:
>>>> Once pulseaudio is purged, try powering off the system then start the 
>>>> system up again and find out what happens.  If everything works, the 
>>>> system will reconfigure to account for the absence of pulseaudio and you 
>>>> should have speech back again once that happens.
>>>> 
>>>> On Thu, 26 May 2016, Mark Peveto wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Date: Thu, 26 May 2016 03:32:44
>>>>> From: Mark Peveto <southernprince73 at gmail.com>
>>>>> Reply-To: Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list at redhat.com>
>>>>> To: Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list at redhat.com>
>>>>> Subject: Re: console speech
>>>>> 
>>>>> Tried, but it totally jacked up my sound after that.  I'm having to 
>>>>> reinstall again.
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 05/25/2016 01:58 PM, Jude DaShiell wrote:
>>>>>> Mark has to get rid of pulseaudio and all of its dependencies.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Wed, 25 May 2016, Willem van der Walt wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Date: Wed, 25 May 2016 14:10:06
>>>>>>> From: Willem van der Walt <wvdwalt at csir.co.za>
>>>>>>> Reply-To: Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list at redhat.com>
>>>>>>> To: Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list at redhat.com>
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: console speech
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Get rid of pulseaudio.
>>>>>>> You should be able to google how to do that on your distro.
>>>>>>> HTH, Willem
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Wed, 25 May 2016, Mark Peveto wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I'm at my witt's end!  I'm working with f123, a manjaro based distro, 
>>>>>>>> and have had really good luck, until it comes to console speech using 
>>>>>>>> espeakup.
>>>>>>>> It'll speak for about 30 seconds, then I get a pulseaudio error that 
>>>>>>>> looks like this.
>>>>>>>> assirtion 'p' failed at pulse/simple.c:273, function 
>>>>>>>> pa_simple_write(). Aborting.
>>>>>>>> It's shot me down on every manjaro based distro I've tried. Others 
>>>>>>>> have seemed to get speech in console, but I can't seem to make it 
>>>>>>>> happen. Vinux has
>>>>>>>> it, and if i have to i'll put vinux on both machines, but that seems 
>>>>>>>> a little nuts.  I like vinux, and am using it now, but would also 
>>>>>>>> like the
>>>>>>>> opportunity to work with these other distros.  I've been able to 
>>>>>>>> install my favorite programs, but trying to use them from a terminal 
>>>>>>>> just doesn't read
>>>>>>>> well, so I need the console.
>>>>>>>> Oh, and before someone says google it, I've done that for a week. 
>>>>>>>> Nothing helps.  LOL!
>>>>>>>> Mark Peveto
>>>>>>>> Registered Linux user number 600552
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