console speech

Jude DaShiell jdashiel at panix.com
Mon May 30 22:53:04 UTC 2016 

Understand, pulseaudio has lots of dependencies already installed.  So 
once pulseaudio is cleared remove the rest of them then alsactl init && 
alsactl store && speaker-test before rebooting.

On Mon, 30 May 2016, Alonzo Cuellar wrote:

> Date: Mon, 30 May 2016 17:55:15
> From: Alonzo Cuellar <mariachiac at gmail.com>
> Reply-To: Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list at redhat.com>
> To: blinux-list at redhat.com
> Subject: Re: console speech
> 
> Hello,
>
> I agree. That said I currently can't use espeakup here since my system uses 
> Pulse. Maybe I'll get the urge to disable Pulseaudio and try Alsa. this way I 
> can use espeakup again.
>
>
> Alonzo
>
>
>
> On 05/30/2016 03:55 PM, Jude DaShiell wrote:
>> Martin MacCormack has done so and he's not the only one to have done it 
>> either.  Probably what will benefit many will be an alsa linux wiki 
>> describing circumstances under which whether using command line or g.u.i. 
>> interfaces it's advantageous to uninstall pulseaudio and set everything to 
>> work with alsa.  Then installers will be able to read and act accordingly.
>> 
>> On Mon, 30 May 2016, Alonzo Cuellar wrote:
>> 
>>> Date: Mon, 30 May 2016 16:46:30
>>> From: Alonzo Cuellar <mariachiac at gmail.com>
>>> Reply-To: Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list at redhat.com>
>>> To: blinux-list at redhat.com
>>> Subject: Re: console speech
>>> 
>>> Hello,
>>> 
>>> I understand that. whhich is why I stated usign gnome or any type of x 
>>> environment is where it benefits the user to use Pule. I've not used Alsa. 
>>> I've only used it to install Arch Linux with Talkinc Arch. I don't see a 
>>> problem with only using Alsa. However, I'd think more and more apps are 
>>> requiring Pulse these days.
>>> 
>>> It just seems that one would have to do a lot of work to get rid of pulse 
>>> if wanting an Alsa only system. I've not tried the approach with not 
>>> having pulse audio loading drivers. and having alsa with dmix not having 
>>> Pulse take control of the audio device.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> alonzo
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 05/30/2016 09:27 AM, Jude DaShiell wrote:
>>>> Not in the case of talkingarchlinux. That distro has a script for 
>>>> automatic sound card discovery and it's able to install a system in a way 
>>>> where the default will be usb speakers when the installation is complete.
>>>> Kalilinux which uses pulseaudio cannot find usb speakers and match what 
>>>> talkingarchlinux can do now.  The pulseaudio system is a control system 
>>>> not anything that works on low level stuff.  A couple sighted people who 
>>>> built me a new computer and installed kalilinux on it for me and myself 
>>>> later verified all of this.
>>>> 
>>>> On Sun, 29 May 2016, Alonzo Cuellar wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Date: Sun, 29 May 2016 13:53:28
>>>>> From: Alonzo Cuellar <mariachiac at gmail.com>
>>>>> Reply-To: Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list at redhat.com>
>>>>> To: blinux-list at redhat.com
>>>>> Subject: Re: console speech
>>>>> 
>>>>> hello,
>>>>> 
>>>>> My thoughts. Pulse Audio has more functionality then Alsa. Alsa is great 
>>>>> for a low level system meaning only command line access. If you run a 
>>>>> graphical environment you will not be able to get discovery of sound 
>>>>> automatically unless of course you write some sort of scripts for Alsa.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I happen to think though that when Pulse Audio was beginning to be upon 
>>>>> the Linux community most of us who used Espeakup relied on Alsa 
>>>>> heaviely. Now its a bit of a problem for a user who wants the desktop 
>>>>> experience.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thats just what I see.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> alonzo
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 05/26/2016 09:32 AM, Jude DaShiell wrote:
>>>>>> Once pulseaudio is purged, try powering off the system then start the 
>>>>>> system up again and find out what happens.  If everything works, the 
>>>>>> system will reconfigure to account for the absence of pulseaudio and 
>>>>>> you should have speech back again once that happens.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Thu, 26 May 2016, Mark Peveto wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Date: Thu, 26 May 2016 03:32:44
>>>>>>> From: Mark Peveto <southernprince73 at gmail.com>
>>>>>>> Reply-To: Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list at redhat.com>
>>>>>>> To: Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list at redhat.com>
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: console speech
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Tried, but it totally jacked up my sound after that. I'm having to 
>>>>>>> reinstall again.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 05/25/2016 01:58 PM, Jude DaShiell wrote:
>>>>>>>> Mark has to get rid of pulseaudio and all of its dependencies.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Wed, 25 May 2016, Willem van der Walt wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Date: Wed, 25 May 2016 14:10:06
>>>>>>>>> From: Willem van der Walt <wvdwalt at csir.co.za>
>>>>>>>>> Reply-To: Linux for blind general discussion 
>>>>>>>>> <blinux-list at redhat.com>
>>>>>>>>> To: Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list at redhat.com>
>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: console speech
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Get rid of pulseaudio.
>>>>>>>>> You should be able to google how to do that on your distro.
>>>>>>>>> HTH, Willem
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 25 May 2016, Mark Peveto wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> I'm at my witt's end!  I'm working with f123, a manjaro based 
>>>>>>>>>> distro, and have had really good luck, until it comes to console 
>>>>>>>>>> speech using espeakup.
>>>>>>>>>> It'll speak for about 30 seconds, then I get a pulseaudio error 
>>>>>>>>>> that looks like this.
>>>>>>>>>> assirtion 'p' failed at pulse/simple.c:273, function 
>>>>>>>>>> pa_simple_write(). Aborting.
>>>>>>>>>> It's shot me down on every manjaro based distro I've tried. Others 
>>>>>>>>>> have seemed to get speech in console, but I can't seem to make it 
>>>>>>>>>> happen. Vinux has
>>>>>>>>>> it, and if i have to i'll put vinux on both machines, but that 
>>>>>>>>>> seems a little nuts.  I like vinux, and am using it now, but would 
>>>>>>>>>> also like the
>>>>>>>>>> opportunity to work with these other distros. I've been able to 
>>>>>>>>>> install my favorite programs, but trying to use them from a 
>>>>>>>>>> terminal just doesn't read
>>>>>>>>>> well, so I need the console.
>>>>>>>>>> Oh, and before someone says google it, I've done that for a week. 
>>>>>>>>>> Nothing helps.  LOL!
>>>>>>>>>> Mark Peveto
>>>>>>>>>> Registered Linux user number 600552
>>>>>>>>>> Sent from vinux using alpine 2.20.10
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