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Actually a screen reader using f12 to tell the time does make it a standard probably unique to that screen reader. Standards are loved by many because there are so many standards from which to choose. There is a huge difference between a standard and the standard; those multiple standards lovers (thick among the software writing crowd and operating system writing crowd) get very combative whenever the standard gets mentioned.

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On Apr 24, 2017 at 9:36 PM, Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list at redhat.com> wrote:

I don't think nerds or blind nerds are unique in this sense at all. In 
fact, since the blind suffer so much from prejudice, I'm always 
surprised by how prejudiced the blind themselves can be about the blind, 
although I shouldn't be, since I think that's just human nature. Anyone 
who thinks the blind are somehow worse then the general population in 
this sense don't follow the political parties in the US, read reviews on 
Amazon or follow comments on Facebook or the news sites. 

Finally just because one screen reader uses F12 to tell the time doesn't 
make it a standard. 

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Christopher (CJ) 
chaltain at Gmail 

On 24/04/17 09:32, Linux for blind general discussion wrote: 
Don't let the perfect be the enemy of the good. Again, a little give can 
sometimes be a very good thing. Honestly, nerds all seem to have this 
thing where they think their way is the best way. This is how distro 
religious wars start. But of all the community of nerds I am associated 
with, blind nerds are the worst. There is absolutely no compromise, no 
willingness to work together, nothing! In fact, it's ubiquitous in the 
blind community. We even have 2 different advocacy groups, the NFB and 
the ACB. And the health of the blind community as a whole can just go 
to heck for all anyone cares. Drives me crazy. The reason why F12 should 
give you the time is that that the standard. Because people expect F12 
to give them the time. It's that simple. 

On 04/24/2017 01:11 AM, Linux for blind general discussion wrote: 
Why do I want insert+f12 to tell me the time when insert+t, (t for 
time), can do that for me just fine and more intuitively? How is f12 
better than t, which stands for time? No, that's simply not a logical 
keybinding, and I don't want it in Orca. BTDubs, holding in the insert 
Orca key and double tapping t for time does tell me the date. So again 
I ask what the hell does f12 mean and why is it needed to do the same 
thing that t already does? 
~Kyle 

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