Sonar GNU/Linux merges with Vinux

Linux for blind general discussion blinux-list at
Wed Apr 26 01:09:07 UTC 2017

Nobody said anything about all blind people agreeing about anything. The 
issue is whether we are hurting ourselves with our inability to 
cooperate. Even if you don't believe that the infighting in the blind 
community is worse than it is in the general public, that's no reason to 
just accept the status quo. But think about curb cuts. Over the last 20 
or 25 years, pretty much every curb in the country has been rebuilt to 
allow wheelchair access. Every building has to have acccessible 
bathrooms when it's remodeled. Stadiums, office buildings, classroom 
buildings have all been rebuilt to allow wheelchair access. And it is 
now just considered part of the cost of doing business in this country. 
How did they do it? How did partially paralysed people get those things 
done? They don't fight among themselves like we do.

-- John Heim

On 04/25/2017 07:42 PM, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
> I agree with this post. Sure it would be great if all blind people 
> agreed with one another, especially when it came to issues concerning 
> the blind, but I think this is unrealistic. In this sense, the blind 
> are no different then the general public, and as nice as it would be 
> if the blind were better than the average Joe, I don't think we can 
> escape the fact that we're human, and this brings in all of the bad 
> along with the good.
> For a job I had about five years ago, I needed to collaborate with my 
> peers on Google Docs. At the time this didn't work with any screen 
> reader or browser combination, except ChromeVox and Chrome. I had no 
> trouble learning the different key strokes, and in addition to keeping 
> me competitive on my job, is was exciting to be working with my 
> colleagues on the same document at the same time.
> As I said, I don't have a problem learning some new keystrokes when 
> coming over to a new platform or picking up a new screen reader. I 
> think people moving from platform to platform face much bigger 
> challenges. For me, for example, the fact that I have to use Outlook 
> at work and choose to use Thunderbird at home, and the different ways 
> they handle spell checking, is much more frustrating for me then any 
> keystroke differences between Orca and JAWS. Even as frustrating as 
> this is, and even though I prefer Orca and Thunderbird, I'd never 
> expect Microsoft and Freedom Scientific to change how they handle 
> spell checking in Outlook.

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