Sonar GNU/Linux merges with Vinux

Linux for blind general discussion blinux-list at
Wed Apr 26 04:27:53 UTC 2017

Wow, that's really interesting to know.
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Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list at> writes:

> Nobody said anything about all blind people agreeing about anything.
> The issue is whether we are hurting ourselves with our inability to
> cooperate. Even if you don't believe that the infighting in the blind
> community is worse than it is in the general public, that's no reason
> to just accept the status quo. But think about curb cuts. Over the
> last 20 or 25 years, pretty much every curb in the country has been
> rebuilt to allow wheelchair access. Every building has to have
> acccessible bathrooms when it's remodeled. Stadiums, office buildings,
> classroom buildings have all been rebuilt to allow wheelchair access.
> And it is now just considered part of the cost of doing business in
> this country. How did they do it? How did partially paralysed people
> get those things done? They don't fight among themselves like we do.
> -- John Heim
> On 04/25/2017 07:42 PM, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
>> I agree with this post. Sure it would be great if all blind people
>> agreed with one another, especially when it came to issues
>> concerning the blind, but I think this is unrealistic. In this
>> sense, the blind are no different then the general public, and as
>> nice as it would be if the blind were better than the average Joe, I
>> don't think we can escape the fact that we're human, and this brings
>> in all of the bad along with the good.
>> For a job I had about five years ago, I needed to collaborate with
>> my peers on Google Docs. At the time this didn't work with any
>> screen reader or browser combination, except ChromeVox and Chrome. I
>> had no trouble learning the different key strokes, and in addition
>> to keeping me competitive on my job, is was exciting to be working
>> with my colleagues on the same document at the same time.
>> As I said, I don't have a problem learning some new keystrokes when
>> coming over to a new platform or picking up a new screen reader. I
>> think people moving from platform to platform face much bigger
>> challenges. For me, for example, the fact that I have to use Outlook
>> at work and choose to use Thunderbird at home, and the different
>> ways they handle spell checking, is much more frustrating for me
>> then any keystroke differences between Orca and JAWS. Even as
>> frustrating as this is, and even though I prefer Orca and
>> Thunderbird, I'd never expect Microsoft and Freedom Scientific to
>> change how they handle spell checking in Outlook.
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