Sonar GNU/Linux merges with Vinux

Linux for blind general discussion blinux-list at
Wed Apr 26 09:49:01 UTC 2017

Tony Baechler here.

You make my point, exactly! All of the BSDs, Windows, and who knows what 
else ship Gnome. Orca is part of Gnome. Therefore, they all ship Orca if 
they ship a complete Gnome environment. That doesn't mean they care about 
accessibility. That means they ship Orca because it's part of Gnome. Case in 
point. KDE has a package called KAccessibility. I assume it ships with all 
distros which ship KDE. KDE isn't accessible. KDE doesn't support Orca. Orca 
doesn't support KDE since KDE doesn't have an a11y framework like Gnome and 
MATE. Just because a vendor ships a product with accessibility components 
doesn't mean: A. they care about accessibility and B. they make any effort 
to make their products accessible. OpenSolaris ships a screen reader too. 
Has anyone tried it? Is it accessible? I honestly don't know.

Regarding your comment that no distros and no main developers care about 
accessibility, I flatly disagree. I've seen many posts to debian-boot and 
debian-devel from DDs wanting to make sure packages are accessible. There 
was a discussion about Java. Lots of work has gone into Debian-Installer. 
They have made accessibility truly part of their design process. Slackware 
was the first to ship a special Speakup kernel on their standard install 
media. Ubuntu has made great strides, but I don't think they're at the same 
level as Debian. I did see a post asking for people to join the 
accessibility team and test for problems, file bugs, write docs, etc. There 
is so much to do that I don't think a dozen nonprofits could do it all.

On 4/23/2017 11:52 PM, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
> Wait, isn't Orca just a Gnome thing altogether? since RH uses Gnome,
> 	Orca comes by default. I seriously think not one of the
> 	distributions /care/ about accessibility. I know, it’s harsh of
> 	me to say so, but the main developers? Shoot no! It’s truly up
> 	to us to blast our way in if we want things to be stable, up to
> 	date, all that. Just look at Fedora’s accessibility Wiki pages.
> 	Even arch and Debian are better than that.

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