Sonar GNU/Linux merges with Vinux

Linux for blind general discussion blinux-list at
Wed Apr 26 10:47:22 UTC 2017

Tony Baechler here.

Kyle, I find your rant amusing. Back in the good old days of DOS, I used 
Vocal-Eyes. Guess what the key for time was. No, not F12. Actually, it was 
undefined. Do you know what I picked on my own? Ctrl-F12. I was very happy 
with it. It's way out of the way and doesn't interfere with anything else, 
but it's easy to press when I want it. On those very rare times I'm in a DOS 
emulator, I still use it. It makes sense to me. The title of the app you're 
in is far more important than knowing the time. One annoying thing about 
Speakup is there is no time hotkey.

On 4/24/2017 8:29 AM, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
> No. F12 does not mean time in any language. F12 may be a Jaws thing, and it
> may even be an NVDA thing, but it's far from a standard. Last I checked,
> time wasn't spelled with an f anything. Therefore, f12 telling me the time
> is stupid and illogical at best. I want my t damn it. T for time, t for
> tell, t for anything you like, but don't make me learn a completely stupid
> and illogical key combination simply because some proprietary power decided
> long ago that t for time was somehow insufficient. If you want f12 or even
> the page down key to tell you the time, by all means, please do configure
> Orca that way, for yourself. Those of us who have used Orca, and even those
> of us who came to Orca from somewhere else, fully appreciate the benefits of
> Orca's mnemonic keybindings over the stupid and illogical ones we had to
> learn in other screen readers just to get them to do basic things.
> ~Kyle

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