Re : Re: Sonar GNU/Linux merges with Vinux

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Thu Apr 27 15:07:33 UTC 2017

Hi, Jean-Philippe MENGUAL here.

Wouldn't we need a location to provide professionals in all blind institutes, all Facebook groups, etc, for knowing that next to Windows and Mac, they have:
- Vinux, to install a native accessible system on an existing computers 
- other projects you think relevant such as Talking arch
- Hypra, to get a pre-installed accessible Linux PC with remote suport 


Jean-Philippe MENGUAL

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----- Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list at> a écrit :
> Hmm. Facebook groups? Perhaps? I could handle that, if it please ya.
> 	Linux for the blind. Grant stuff, though, I’ll probably have to
> 	leave for those who know about petitioning and such. However,
> 	NVDA got plenty of grant money from Mozilla and Adobe, so we
> 	could start with them, as Orca works best with Firefox for web browsing.
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> Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list at> writes:
> > Tony Baechler here.
> >
> > Your comments again emphasize the need for a nonprofit organization. I
> > wouldn't worry too much about the money. Funding will happen once the
> > word gets out. Oh, it takes time and it won't be immediate, but it can
> > and will happen. What we need is a grant writer. The government issues
> > grants. There are many private companies who put lots of funding into
> > Linux. Most major projects have outside funding. If Mozilla had to
> > survive only on donors, they wouldn't. Debian gets lots of money and
> > servers from HP Enterprise and many other companies. You're right that
> > the Windows guys get their money mostly from the government, but not
> > all. Schools are a lot of the market.
> >
> > As I said before, start young. Get on social media where teens and
> > young people are and show them that there is another choice besides
> > Windows and the Mac. Even if they aren't programmers, they are
> > potential users. One of the reasons why the Apple II became so
> > successful was because it was given to so many schools. How many of
> > you grew up on the Apple II in the classroom? There was a company
> > called Raised Dot Computing. They wrote and sold Bex and other
> > programs. They were a commercial business. When they started, they had
> > no money. All of their newsletters are online and well worth reading
> > if you care about the history of technology for the blind. They hired
> > a grant writer. After getting several grants, they were able to fund
> > development of their software, like Braille Edit which became Bex, a
> > program to make AppleWorks accessible and eventually Mega Dots for the
> > PC. The point is it can be done and it wouldn't be that difficult,
> > especially with a good social media presence.
> >
> > On 4/24/2017 4:56 AM, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
> >> Kelly Prescott here.
> >> The reason Windows has better accessibility, is that the government has
> >> largely funded it.  FS and all the other players get a large percentage of
> >> there purchases from VR dollars which is the good old tax payer!
> >> So while a private company developes it, Uncle Sam really foots the bill!
> >> I only say that to show how hard it is to get accessible software built and
> >> maintained.
> >> I am working on a UEFI boot loader that talks from bootup.  I am going to
> >> release it as open source.
> >> The thing is: I have to feed me and mine durring this effort.
> >> This means that I work on borring normal projects most of the time, and my
> >> boot loader when I have spare time.
> >> I think there are several developers me among them who would do this full
> >> time, but if there is no money in it, then we must continue to work on our
> >> normal jobs/projects until we either have time to work on it or we find some
> >> good funding to pay for it.
> >> Unfortunately, I do not know of good ways to obtain lots of money for
> >> part-time developers.  There is only so much free time and free work to go
> >> around.
> >
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