Sonar GNU/Linux merges with Vinux

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Thu Apr 27 15:23:18 UTC 2017

Aall the money IAVIT has ever gotten has come from knowing someone. Most 
corporate foundations don't even take unsolicited grant applications. 
You have to get a sponsor in the company who can write the application 
for you. And you kind of have to allow them to drive the project. There 
may be exceptions, for example it's possible that Microsoft just gave 
the nvda project a lot of money. But I suspect it was the same kind of 
deal. I've had a small amount of success getting money from Lions Clubs 
andjust marching into a local business and asking for money or 
resources. At first I felt that was humiliating. But I realized it 
shouldn't be so I forced myself to get over it. I can now just pick up 
the phone and ask for money and it doesn't bother me at all. Actually, a 
talent like that shouldn't be wasted, I should run for Congress.

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--John Heim

On 04/27/2017 06:15 AM, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
> I agree with you, but when you say schools, you mean the government.
> They provide the majority of funding schools use for that sort of thing.
> I did not think of a grant writer.  That sounds like a good place to start.
> --Kelly Prescott
> On Thu, 27 Apr 2017, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
>> Tony Baechler here.
>> Your comments again emphasize the need for a nonprofit organization. I
>> wouldn't worry too much about the money. Funding will happen once the
>> word gets out. Oh, it takes time and it won't be immediate, but it can
>> and will happen. What we need is a grant writer. The government issues
>> grants. There are many private companies who put lots of funding into
>> Linux. Most major projects have outside funding. If Mozilla had to
>> survive only on donors, they wouldn't. Debian gets lots of money and
>> servers from HP Enterprise and many other companies. You're right that
>> the Windows guys get their money mostly from the government, but not
>> all. Schools are a lot of the market.
>> As I said before, start young. Get on social media where teens and
>> young people are and show them that there is another choice besides
>> Windows and the Mac. Even if they aren't programmers, they are
>> potential users. One of the reasons why the Apple II became so
>> successful was because it was given to so many schools. How many of
>> you grew up on the Apple II in the classroom? There was a company
>> called Raised Dot Computing. They wrote and sold Bex and other
>> programs. They were a commercial business. When they started, they had
>> no money. All of their newsletters are online and well worth reading
>> if you care about the history of technology for the blind. They hired
>> a grant writer. After getting several grants, they were able to fund
>> development of their software, like Braille Edit which became Bex, a
>> program to make AppleWorks accessible and eventually Mega Dots for the
>> PC. The point is it can be done and it wouldn't be that difficult,
>> especially with a good social media presence.
>> On 4/24/2017 4:56 AM, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
>>>  Kelly Prescott here.
>>>  The reason Windows has better accessibility, is that the government has
>>>  largely funded it.  FS and all the other players get a large
>>> percentage of
>>>  there purchases from VR dollars which is the good old tax payer!
>>>  So while a private company developes it, Uncle Sam really foots the
>>> bill!
>>>  I only say that to show how hard it is to get accessible software built
>>>  and
>>>  maintained.
>>>  I am working on a UEFI boot loader that talks from bootup.  I am
>>> going to
>>>  release it as open source.
>>>  The thing is: I have to feed me and mine durring this effort.
>>>  This means that I work on borring normal projects most of the time,
>>> and my
>>>  boot loader when I have spare time.
>>>  I think there are several developers me among them who would do this
>>> full
>>>  time, but if there is no money in it, then we must continue to work
>>> on our
>>>  normal jobs/projects until we either have time to work on it or we find
>>>  some
>>>  good funding to pay for it.
>>>  Unfortunately, I do not know of good ways to obtain lots of money for
>>>  part-time developers.  There is only so much free time and free work
>>> to go
>>>  around.
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