Sonar GNU/Linux merges with Vinux

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Thu Apr 27 20:37:04 UTC 2017

According to r.d.t.prater:
# Otherwise, they’ll turn back to iOS, and Voiceover,
# 	which can speak Emoji and such, pretty quickly.
Not quite. I happen to know that Android and Google's speech synthesizer 
can speak emojis as well, and has had such capability for some time. On 
my Android devices, I do still use Google's speech synthesizer because 
it's the only one so far that speaks them, so I am able to emoji with 
the best, or the worst of them as it were. At this point, I still run 
the older Android Espeak on my devices, as there has been no espeak-ng 
update as of now. But I use Google mostly, because I feel like I'm 
missing something because the newer version isn't yet available, and 
even it doesn't fully support unicode yet. Does that mean that I will 
give up on Espeak ever getting full unicode support, especially for 
emojis? Hell no. And Emacs is far too convoluted for me to try to learn 
now, especially since it hasn't changed much since the first time I 
tried it many years ago, and now just getting Emacspeak to build is more 
trouble than it's worth. Seriously, it's all this talk of terminals and 
shells and Emacs and Vim that will drive new users away from Linux more 
than the lack of emoji support in Espeak. There is this perception in 
the wider world that Linux is all about these terminals and shells and 
editors that try to be so much more than just editors, and that it's 
only good for geeky types and server administrators. This glaring 
misconception has indeed been fed by the likes of Microsoft and other 
major marketing firms, who long ago relegated Linux to the data center 
and continue to tell the general public that it's just not for them. But 
many of us who use Linux every day also help to spread this false 
perception when we can't have a user friendly discussion of desktop 
Linux, because even when we install it for others, we can't seem to get 
past the terminal, the shell, the editor that tries to be and do too 
much, etc. Sorry, trying to get the general public at large to use Emacs 
will never fly, as it just feeds that geek perception of Linux and does 
nothing to make it more productive for the end user. Of course I'm not 
saying that you shouldn't use Emacspeak if you got it to build and it 
works for you. But I am saying that in order to debunk the myth that 
Linux is somehow inferior or is only for the geekiest, we need to start 
thinking more inclusively. This means thinking of the power user stuff 
like the shells and terminals and supereditors as an extension of the 
desktop, rather than thinking of the desktop as a necessary evil that we 
need to use to browse the web.

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