Sonar GNU/Linux merges with Vinux

[Linux for blind general discussion]

But we're talking about attracting blind users, right? Shells and
terminals are more natural for us than GUIs. Instructing the computer
is far more intuitive than pretending that it's a two-dimensional
surface with pictures on it.

Amanda

On 4/27/17, Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list at redhat.com> wrote:
> According to r.d.t.prater:
> # Otherwise, they’ll turn back to iOS, and Voiceover,
> # 	which can speak Emoji and such, pretty quickly.
> Not quite. I happen to know that Android and Google's speech synthesizer
> can speak emojis as well, and has had such capability for some time. On
> my Android devices, I do still use Google's speech synthesizer because
> it's the only one so far that speaks them, so I am able to emoji with
> the best, or the worst of them as it were. At this point, I still run
> the older Android Espeak on my devices, as there has been no espeak-ng
> update as of now. But I use Google mostly, because I feel like I'm
> missing something because the newer version isn't yet available, and
> even it doesn't fully support unicode yet. Does that mean that I will
> give up on Espeak ever getting full unicode support, especially for
> emojis? Hell no. And Emacs is far too convoluted for me to try to learn
> now, especially since it hasn't changed much since the first time I
> tried it many years ago, and now just getting Emacspeak to build is more
> trouble than it's worth. Seriously, it's all this talk of terminals and
> shells and Emacs and Vim that will drive new users away from Linux more
> than the lack of emoji support in Espeak. There is this perception in
> the wider world that Linux is all about these terminals and shells and
> editors that try to be so much more than just editors, and that it's
> only good for geeky types and server administrators. This glaring
> misconception has indeed been fed by the likes of Microsoft and other
> major marketing firms, who long ago relegated Linux to the data center
> and continue to tell the general public that it's just not for them. But
> many of us who use Linux every day also help to spread this false
> perception when we can't have a user friendly discussion of desktop
> Linux, because even when we install it for others, we can't seem to get
> past the terminal, the shell, the editor that tries to be and do too
> much, etc. Sorry, trying to get the general public at large to use Emacs
> will never fly, as it just feeds that geek perception of Linux and does
> nothing to make it more productive for the end user. Of course I'm not
> saying that you shouldn't use Emacspeak if you got it to build and it
> works for you. But I am saying that in order to debunk the myth that
> Linux is somehow inferior or is only for the geekiest, we need to start
> thinking more inclusively. This means thinking of the power user stuff
> like the shells and terminals and supereditors as an extension of the
> desktop, rather than thinking of the desktop as a necessary evil that we
> need to use to browse the web.
> ~Kyle
>
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