Blind vs. mainstream distros

Linux for blind general discussion blinux-list at
Fri Apr 28 02:41:29 UTC 2017

I'm not sure about an install, but I've setup a machine with Windows 8 
preinstalled without sighted help just using Narrator. It's been a while 

I've heard things are only better in Windows 10.

Christopher (CJ)
chaltain at Gmail

On 27/04/17 06:28, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
> Tony Baechler here.
> I have two major problems with this argument, namely what Chris says in
> that Talking Arch should be a separate project. I feel strongly that
> speech and Braille should be part of all boot media for all mainstream
> distros unless it wouldn't be practical, such as for very small systems
> or due to space limitations on the boot media.
> First, I guess it's just me, but pressing a key or two at the boot
> prompt really isn't a big deal. My boot loader lets me pick what OS I
> want to boot. I have to press a number for the partition I want. If you
> use GRUB and want to boot into recovery mode, you press the down arrow,
> whether you're blind or sighted. If you want to boot a custom Linux
> kernel command line, you type it in. Pressing the letter "s" and Enter
> to start speech in Debian and Slackware is hardly what I would call an
> inconvenience. Granted, I agree that I would rather not have to press
> aspecial keys, but if it keeps most people happy (the sighted don't want
> speech) and allows an accessible install, it's fine with me.
> The second major problem I have is that unless I'm mistaken, it's still
> impossible for the blind to install Windows without help. Much of it can
> be automated and maybe Win10 has Narrator during the install, I'm not
> sure. The point is speech doesn't start automatically and there are far
> more keys to randomly press to get speech. In the past, I had someone
> install Windows for me before I could install a screen reader. One area
> where Linux shines is there are distros which only require a key or two
> at boot to have a fully talking installer which is identical to what the
> sighted use. Even the Mac can't do that, although one can start
> VoiceOver during the installation.
> On 4/24/2017 8:21 AM, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
>> Kelly Prescott here.
>> It takes a lot of effort to make a boot environment talk...  I know,
>> because
>> that is what I am working on.
>> I am not speaking of Linux, I am speaking of a boot loader.
>> When I finish my boot loader, then it might be realistic to have a normal
>> arch cd with some boot options.
>> Until that happens, I agree with Chris.  I don't like to boot and
>> guess what
>> to type and when.
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Christopher (CJ)
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