Help with a few projects

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Tue Dec 12 23:00:26 UTC 2017

Ulysses, if you've got an Apache webserver, then generally speaking
the group to hwich the webserver belongs by default is www-data. So u
would add the wordpressuser to that group. Again, your postfix error
is telling u that your user/group permissions are incorrect.

My web hosting invoicing program just crappe the bed. I really need to
get that up first before I can provide much help. I apologize. I would
be willing to try to help once I get this situation straightened out &
a small website built for a client. But right now, young Sir, I'm a
little inundated. Truthfully, given the way things are now, it's
likely gonna be hard for me to get back w/u to any meaningful degree
till after the first of the year. I'm sorry. Holidays w/a family &
trying to run a business can get a little hectic. But if I can get my
invoice program working in a reasonable timeframe, I'll get back on
list sooner & see if I can't help u out. I hope that sounds fair.

On 12/12/17, Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list at> wrote:
> Hi,
> This is the guide I used to follow and set up Postfix.
> The error occurred here. wordpressuser at vps:~$ echo "This is the body of
> the e-mail." | mail -s "This is the subject of the e-mail." green_gables
> _fan33 at
> Can't canonicalize "/home/wordpressuser/Maildir"
> wordpressuser at vps:~$ postdrop: warning: /etc/postfix/
> file is owned or writable by non-root users -- skip
> ping this file
> Could you be less vague. I.E. provide actual steps on how to fix this
> problem? I'll outline the steps I took when I read this sentence. Your
> problem w/WordPress is that you likely don't have the user of the
> wordpress files belonging to the webserver group. Once u make that
> happen, your updating problems will disappear. U need to set the file
> permissions back to a safer level, or your site wil get hacked.
> I only understood you as far as needing to change the ownership of the
> WordPressfiles and their permissions. /var/www/html/blog, where blog is
> the folder that contains WordPress, is as follows, using Win SCP. blog
> Owner: wordpressuser, Group: wordpressuser, Type: File folder, Rights:
> rwsrwsrwt, Changed: 12/12/2017 1:58:35 P
> Based on your statement, I assumed that I needed to change ownership of
> both group and user, and change permissions to Apache2, MySQL, and PHP
> to the same user that WordPress is set to.
> /etc/apache2, /etc/mysql, and /etc/php
> apache2 Owner: wordpressuser, Group: wordpressuser, Type: File folder,
> Rights: rwsrwsrwt, Changed: 11/28/2017 1:25:20 A mysql Owner:
> wordpressuser, Group: wordpressuser, Type: File folder, Rights:
> rwsrwsrwt, Changed: 10/29/2017 6:02:10 P php Owner: wordpressuser,
> Group: wordpressuser, Type: File folder, Rights: rwsrwsrwt, Changed:
> 9/16/2017 12:33:01 P
> I tried updating a plug-in, but it is still giving me the same error
> message. If you want to do an actual session where you could try to help
> me via phone or Skype, I let me know if you would like to pay you a
> small sum or if you'd like to volunteer your time.
> Also, you didn't specify how having all files and folders set to 7777
> would increase the level of attack if Cloudflare is supposed to keep
> people from finding out my IP address, or if they tried accessing
> wp-content/uploads and put malicious PHP scripts.
> I think Windows servers have their place in the universe, but why they
> have to be expensive I know not. Yes, Linux is all done via bash and
> SSH, whereas Windows is done via remote desktop. And for some people, if
> you want to get things done without worrying about command lines, you
> could try C-Panel or something simple, but if you want to know how and
> why things work, and how the puzles all fit together, you can learn as
> long as you have a good support sytem, and many people do not have that.
> What kind of certain web components would be redirected that would make
> it difficult for a beginner to work around? How accessible is
> cloudflare? I noticed some unusual buttons that have vague labels and
> whatnot. I am using NVDA on Windows 10 with Google Chrome and Firefox.
> -Ulysses
> On 12/12/2017 1:19 PM, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
>> Ulysses, provide your error logs & we can assist w/the postfix
>> problem. If those error logs contain information u don't wish on a
>> public list, then go ahead & email me privately at
>> abletec at g mail dot com. You can't copy-&-paste that email, as I've
>> munged it to prevent spam harvesting, but u should be able to figure
>> it out.
>> Your problem w/WordPress is that you likely don't have the user of the
>> wordpress files belonging to the webserver group. Once u make that
>> happen, your updating problems will disappear. U need to set the file
>> permissions back to a safer level, or your site wil get hacked.
>> Unless there's a compelling reason to do so, ie, you're developing
>> some sort of Windows software, my recommendation would be to use Linux
>> to host websites. It's cheaper, &, IMO, also more secure for a number
>> of reasons. I realize I'll likely encounter the ire of some on this
>> list for saying thus, but it really is a fact, IMO.
>> I would also advise disabling Cloudflare until you get everything set
>> up, because it tends to add an additional layer in terms of
>> redirecting certain web components that makes things hard for a
>> beginner to learn & figure out what's going on.
>> On 12/12/17, Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list at>
>> wrote:
>>> Hi everyone,
>>> My name is Ulysses Harmony Garcia. My web site is
>>> I heard about I heard about
>>> this mailing list through a Facebook post.
>>>     For several years, I've been trying to figure out what kind of
>>> services I
>>>     could use to satisfy my needs. In the early 2010's, I looked into
>>> shared
>>>     hosting plans, but the more I looked at them, the more I didn't like
>>> them because I wanted to be able to have full
>>>     control of the server. All they let you use is a public HTML folder
>>> and an FTP server port 21 or 990 for secure connections, and a web-based
>>> administration tool like Webmin or C-Panel. So I continued using Dropbox
>>> to host my web site. The only problem was that I had to use an http
>>> colon slash slash dl dot dropboxusercontent dot com slash u slash
>>> xxxxxxxx slash index dot html to render it, which is a pretty long link,
>>> but at least it worked.
>>> Four years later, I looked into the cloud, SSD, and dedicated
>>>     VPS options. By asking around, I heard of several different choices
>>> such as Linode,
>>>     Vultr, Digital Ocean, OVH, and through a diary entry I had made back
>>> in
>>>     2014, VPS dot Next, I had to learn about which operating system I
>>> would most likely
>>>     use for the server. Since 2005, I have primarily used Windows,
>>>     and I started using a Mac in 2011. I have never used Linux, and I
>>>     probably chose to stay away from it because I associated Linux as an
>>>     operating system only computer geeks would use. So when I was looking
>>> for a
>>>     VPS, I was lucky to find a Windows server on vps dot net. However,
>>> when I told others
>>>     about it, many people acted like that was a crime, or that it was
>>>     impractical to use Windows as a server, and that 99.99% of the web
>>> was
>>>     hosted by Linux, which was meant to be used as a server operating
>>> system.
>>>     I've done most of the work on my own. I first began with a Windows
>>>     virtual private server at VPS dot net, but I was not able to set
>>>     up the web server, database server and PHP to work on-line, except
>>>     through Localhost. I wasn't able to use Internet Information Services
>>>     IIS either, so I gave up on it and cancelled my server. Fortunately,
>>> I kept my
>>>     account active, so I could come back to it when I wasn't overwhelmed.
>>> I even tried enabling Internet Information Services on my Windows 10
>>> computer by using the enable or disables Windows features. I checked
>>> every one of them, but when I typed localhost in the connect to computer
>>> dialogue box, I got this message. IIS6 Manager  dialogue  Unable to
>>> connect to localhost. The target server does not have the SMTP service
>>> installed. You cannot manage an IIS 7.5 Web or FTP server by using
>>> Internet Information Services (6.0) Manager.
>>>     As primarily being an extroverted person, I get energy from working
>>> with
>>>     other people rather than working alone, yet for some reason, I've
>>>     encountered a lot of people who think that being too dependent on
>>> others
>>>     was a bad thing, that being completely independent was the best way
>>> to
>>>     go. I disagree with that. I mean, I can see why some people wouldn't
>>>     want to be too dependent on others for fear of taking too much of
>>>     someone's time or being too clingy, etc, or taking advantage of said
>>>     person, but I also believe that there needs to be a balance in
>>> helping
>>>     others and being self-reliable. This is where interdependence comes
>>> in. Manuals are never straightforward. You can follow the directions in
>>> the manual as exactly outlined and end up with error messages. Even
>>> googling error messages can't guarantee that you will get a quick
>>> solution. Having said that, I have joined a few community forums and
>>> posted these error messages, but never received replies.
>>>     Back in July, I contacted a few people I know who were successfully
>>> using
>>>     the popular content management system WordPress, and asked if they
>>> could
>>>     help out. One person, whose name I won't mention, said they could set
>>> up
>>>     my web site, if I could provide $300/hr USD and that it was estimated
>>> to
>>>     take four hours to set up to where I wanted it to be. Now, this
>>> person
>>>     is also blind. What I do not understand is how someone who may be
>>>     knowledgeable about supplemental security income could decide to
>>> charge
>>>     such a high price to set up something simple, and that is
>>>     semi-automated, and easy to install. I wrote a reply, and didn't hear
>>>     back for a month. I re-sent my reply and was told that if I wanted to
>>>     continue with the route that I choose, I would have to go on
>>> Bookshare
>>>     or BARD to download books on Windows server hosting, and that I had
>>>     sufficient resources on the Audio Games net forum to start.
>>>     so in September, I finally found a fellow who turned out to be
>>> someone I
>>>     knew by reputation, and he offered to spend his free time in helping
>>> me
>>>     out, especially since he has had plenty of experience in working with
>>>     virtual private servers and web hosting. If you ask him how he liked
>>> working with me, he might tell you that I learn things pretty quickly
>>> once I get to actually learning the steps live on Skype or phone. I also
>>> record my sessions so I can look back and see what I did. By that time,
>>> I was a little
>>>     more knowledgeable in talking to others on this topic.
>>> Look at post four.  I
>>> told my new friend a little bit of what I've hoped to accomplish, and
>>> what I
>>>     have done so far, and how much experience I've already had. In 2010
>>>     through 2013, I worked on building an HTML 4.1 and 5 project in high
>>>     school using Notepad, and in 2013, I used CSS 3 to enhance it when I
>>>     took a college class in web development. In mid July of 2013, I got
>>>     myself a WordPress blog up and running, which has been since taken
>>> down.
>>>     I decided to export this blog and import it into the self-hosted
>>>     version, and I was able to successfully link up all of my web pages
>>> to a podcast generator and the WordPress system.
>>> Right now we are sort of stuck on where to go, since I already have a
>>>     basic HTML site with no scripts on my Ubuntu VPS, a TeamTalk server
>>>     running, and hopefully an IceCast or ShoutCast server for streaming.
>>> I heard that you can get
>>>     an e-mail provider through Google Aps and install their mail exchange
>>>     and text verification records, but they are quite costly, and I don't
>>>     know if you'd have to install anything on Ubuntu to make sure the PHP
>>>     contact forms worked properly. By following several guides on Linode
>>> and Digital Ocean, I was able to install Postfix and S-Nail, but I keep
>>> getting error messages when I am trying to send a message as a test.
>>> I also got an account through Cloudflare, and if you were to do a user $
>>> dig +short or root# dig +short
>>> you'd see instead of my actual
>>> server's IP address. If you tried using that directly, it'd say,
>>> Cloudflare direct IP access not allowed. This is to keep attackers from
>>> finding out what my server's IP address is. If they tried doing a who is
>>> on my domain, they'd see a privacy protect dot org notice instead of my
>>> name.
>>> Also, I really couldn't understand how C-Panel and Webmin administration
>>> tools worked until my friend showed me how he used the terminal on his
>>> Cent OS VPS to install it. It sort of reminded me of PHP My Admin. You
>>> simply put :2083, :2087, or :2086 at the end of your domain.
>>> I also installed Certbot which uses Lets Encrypt. At the moment I can't
>>> seem to figure out how to force traffic to be automatically redirected
>>> to https(443) instead of http(80). But now since I'm using Cloudflare,
>>> I'm not sure if that will be necessary.
>>>     Once I get more advanced, and raised my income through Amazon
>>>     Associates and stripe payments, I'd like to install a phone box or
>>> PBX using Asterisk as well. Note that I am running PHP 7. My friend and
>>> I tried installing Free PBX, but it doesn't seem to like it, so we had
>>> to give it up temporarily, at least until they release the newer version.
>>> On a more interesting topic, I don't know if any of you are into speech
>>> synthesis that can sing. I am very much into singing synthesis and have
>>> spent quite a bit of time with DECtalk and Vocaloid. I recently got
>>> interested in learning how to use Festival and make my own speech
>>> synthesiser. If you look at post 57 of this thread, you can see where I
>>> am at right now.
>>> So having said that, might any of you be able to help me resolve this
>>> mail problem with Postfix and S-Nail? I keep getting a debug error.
>>> Also, for some annoying reason which my friend and I have not been able
>>> to determine, I cannot install plug-ins or update WordPress directly. It
>>> wants to access my web server through FTP or FTPS, and I don't have one
>>> properly configured. I tried changing all file and folder permissions to
>>> 7777 recursively, but I am still unable to update and install plug-ins
>>> automatically. If any of you are able to help me with that as well I
>>> would greatly appreciate it.
>>> Anyhow, I apologise for this lengthy e-mail, but hopefully that gives
>>>     you all an idea of what I've done so far and where I'd like to go
>>> next. :-)
>>>     Sincerely,
>>>     -Ulysses
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