Installing Fedora and other Linux systems

Sat Jul 1 04:54:23 UTC 2017

The reason people don't know what they are doing is Fedora isn't all 
that well documented from an accessibility installation perspective yet.
  I hope the message I sent here before this message goes a little way 
toward providing some documentation.

On Fri, 30 Jun 2017, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:

> Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2017 13:07:49
> From: Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list at redhat.com>
> To: Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list at redhat.com>
> Subject: Re: Installing Fedora and other Linux systems
> 
> Fedora is very workable, if you know how to work it. There's no
> intrinsic problem with Fedora, except that it's rather hard to install
> without sighted assistance. Or perhaps I should say it's significantly
> harder to install for people who don't know what they're doing. There
> are distributions that intentionally and actively support installation
> by blind users, but Fedora isn't one of them. That's all.
>
> Actually, Fedora is a great choice in many ways.
>
> Janina
>
> Linux for blind general discussion writes:
>> Helllo sense fedora isn;t workable what is vinux going to use? last I heard
>> vinux was going to use fedora.
>>
>> thanks
>>
>> Hank
>>
>>
>>
>> On 6/29/2017 8:14 PM, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
>>> Should I be looking for an Everything fedora torrent?  I found some of
>>> those and didn't know what to make of them.
>>>
>>> On Thu, 29 Jun 2017, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
>>>
>>>> Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2017 23:03:05
>>>> From: Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list at redhat.com>
>>>> To: Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list at redhat.com>
>>>> Subject: Re: Installing Fedora and other Linux systems
>>>>
>>>> Well, if you're getting confused by the Talking Arch install, I would
>>>> recommend you stay away from Fedora for now.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Talking Arch is designed to be blind friendly. Fedora is not. So, save
>>>> Fedora for another day--for a day when you know more about Linux and how
>>>> to work with it.
>>>>
>>>> Just my advice, which you're free to do with as you will, of course.
>>>>
>>>> Janina
>>>>
>>>> Linux for blind general discussion writes:
>>>>> I use the Talking arch iso. I've tried installing it, but I
>>>>> always get stuck on one part or another, like setting the clock,
>>>>> partitioning the drive, such like that. What I plan to do is
>>>>> dualboot Windows and Linux, so I can have Emacspeak and the
>>>>> Windows audio games and such as well. I'll also try installing
>>>>> Linux, probably Arch this time, using a flash drive which I am
>>>>> 100." sure that it'll work, as my old one didn't even work in
>>>>> Windows, so I think it's gone rather bad.
>>>>>
>>>>> Devin Prater
>>>>>
>>>>> Assistive Technology Instructor in training at World Services
>>>>> for the BLIND, JAWS certified
>>>>>
>>>>> On Jun 29, 2017 9:21 AM, Linux for blind general discussion
>>>>> <blinux-list at redhat.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I don't understand why you have trouble installing Arch. Are you using
>>>>>> the especially adapted talking arch iso image? If installing
>>>>>> arch, this
>>>>>> is the one you should be using.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://talkingarch.tk
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Installing Fedora is actually more difficult. Particularly
>>>>>> tricky is the
>>>>>> stage of installation where you partition your drive--unless you're
>>>>>> happy to take Fedora's defaults. Personally, I don't support that
>>>>>> default simply because I find it wise to put /home on a separate
>>>>>> partition--but maybe you wouldn't care. That's certainly up to you.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As to what may have gone wrong in your Fedora installation, you've not
>>>>>> nearly enough info in your email. How do you know nothing
>>>>>> went wrong in
>>>>>> the install? What messages did you see?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And, how do you know it's not booting? What is it you expect
>>>>>> that isn't
>>>>>> happening? I'm presuming you're blind so aren't seeing
>>>>>> screens. So, how
>>>>>> do you know what you think you know?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm not trying to be harsh. But your message really isn't explaining
>>>>>> anything useful for debugging.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> PS: It will also be easier to follow your explanation if you
>>>>>> can manage
>>>>>> to avoid run-on sentences.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Janina
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Linux for blind general discussion writes:
>>>>>>> Hi all. After using Windows for a month, after using
>>>>>>> Linux for two months, I've noticed that everything that
>>>>>>> I do on Windows, I could do on Windows, and with the
>>>>>>> Braille note Touch, I can get the Exchange emails from
>>>>>>> the training center I'm attending, which mainly uses
>>>>>>> Windows. So, while in Windows, I burned a USB drive with
>>>>>>> the latest Fedora image, using Rufus, making it
>>>>>>> bootable. So, The installation went well, but after the
>>>>>>> computer restarted, and the flash drive was taken out,
>>>>>>> no system came up. I've never seen that happen before,
>>>>>>> and Googling didn't give any answers, so I'm stuck
>>>>>>> between Vinux, and Arch. Vinux being okay I suppose, but
>>>>>>> out of date, and Arch being hard for me to install,
>>>>>>> without scripts although the ones I know of are broken,
>>>>>>> but Arch is what I like, because it has anything I ask
>>>>>>> of it. So I tried installing Fedora a few more times,
>>>>>>> formatting the drive, but no luck. Then I accidentally
>>>>>>> pulled the flash drive out of the USB drive for a
>>>>>>> moment, and wh
>>> en I pus
>>> hed
>>>>>>   i
>>>>>>>   t back in, I couldq't load Orca when first starting up
>>>>>>> the installer, so the data on that drive is probably
>>>>>>> corrupted. So, any ideas? Should I just go with Vinux
>>>>>>> and deal with it? The last time I tried the instructions
>>>>>>> for installing Arch, I got stuck on setting the clock
>>>>>>> and such, because the results I got were not the results
>>>>>>> on the ge, so I'm just not sure what to do.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Devin Prater
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Assistive Technology Instructor in training at World
>>>>>>> Services for the BLIND, JAWS certified
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>> --
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Janina Sajka, Phone: +1.443.300.2200
>>>>>> sip:janina at asterisk.rednote.net
>>>>>> Email: janina at rednote.net
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Linux Foundation Fellow
>>>>>> Executive Chair, Accessibility Workgroup: http://a11y.org
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The World Wide Web Consortium (W3C), Web Accessibility
>>>>>> Initiative (WAI)
>>>>>> Chair, Accessible Platform Architectures http://www.w3.org/wai/apa
>>>>>>
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