Installing Fedora and other Linux systems

Sat Jul 1 23:07:51 UTC 2017

The beta version of fedora disables orca after the accept your fate 
button is pressed to the point it's not possible to enter flat review. 
That version of Fedora definitely needs some attention paid to the 
installer itself too.
The x-86_64 version of the Workstation-25 Fedora as well as the i386 
version does install correctly here once you know what to expect during 
those installations.

On Sat, 1 Jul 2017, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:

> Date: Sat, 1 Jul 2017 00:54:23
> From: Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list at redhat.com>
> To: Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list at redhat.com>
> Subject: Re: Installing Fedora and other Linux systems
> 
> The reason people don't know what they are doing is Fedora isn't all that 
> well documented from an accessibility installation perspective yet.
> I hope the message I sent here before this message goes a little way toward 
> providing some documentation.
>
> On Fri, 30 Jun 2017, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
>
>> Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2017 13:07:49
>> From: Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list at redhat.com>
>> To: Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list at redhat.com>
>> Subject: Re: Installing Fedora and other Linux systems
>> 
>> Fedora is very workable, if you know how to work it. There's no
>> intrinsic problem with Fedora, except that it's rather hard to install
>> without sighted assistance. Or perhaps I should say it's significantly
>> harder to install for people who don't know what they're doing. There
>> are distributions that intentionally and actively support installation
>> by blind users, but Fedora isn't one of them. That's all.
>> 
>> Actually, Fedora is a great choice in many ways.
>> 
>> Janina
>> 
>> Linux for blind general discussion writes:
>>> Helllo sense fedora isn;t workable what is vinux going to use? last I 
>>> heard
>>> vinux was going to use fedora.
>>> 
>>> thanks
>>> 
>>> Hank
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 6/29/2017 8:14 PM, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
>>>> Should I be looking for an Everything fedora torrent?  I found some of
>>>> those and didn't know what to make of them.
>>>> 
>>>> On Thu, 29 Jun 2017, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2017 23:03:05
>>>>> From: Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list at redhat.com>
>>>>> To: Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list at redhat.com>
>>>>> Subject: Re: Installing Fedora and other Linux systems
>>>>> 
>>>>> Well, if you're getting confused by the Talking Arch install, I would
>>>>> recommend you stay away from Fedora for now.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Talking Arch is designed to be blind friendly. Fedora is not. So, save
>>>>> Fedora for another day--for a day when you know more about Linux and how
>>>>> to work with it.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Just my advice, which you're free to do with as you will, of course.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Janina
>>>>> 
>>>>> Linux for blind general discussion writes:
>>>>>> I use the Talking arch iso. I've tried installing it, but I
>>>>>> always get stuck on one part or another, like setting the clock,
>>>>>> partitioning the drive, such like that. What I plan to do is
>>>>>> dualboot Windows and Linux, so I can have Emacspeak and the
>>>>>> Windows audio games and such as well. I'll also try installing
>>>>>> Linux, probably Arch this time, using a flash drive which I am
>>>>>> 100." sure that it'll work, as my old one didn't even work in
>>>>>> Windows, so I think it's gone rather bad.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Devin Prater
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Assistive Technology Instructor in training at World Services
>>>>>> for the BLIND, JAWS certified
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Jun 29, 2017 9:21 AM, Linux for blind general discussion
>>>>>> <blinux-list at redhat.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I don't understand why you have trouble installing Arch. Are you using
>>>>>>> the especially adapted talking arch iso image? If installing
>>>>>>> arch, this
>>>>>>> is the one you should be using.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> https://talkingarch.tk
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Installing Fedora is actually more difficult. Particularly
>>>>>>> tricky is the
>>>>>>> stage of installation where you partition your drive--unless you're
>>>>>>> happy to take Fedora's defaults. Personally, I don't support that
>>>>>>> default simply because I find it wise to put /home on a separate
>>>>>>> partition--but maybe you wouldn't care. That's certainly up to you.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> As to what may have gone wrong in your Fedora installation, you've not
>>>>>>> nearly enough info in your email. How do you know nothing
>>>>>>> went wrong in
>>>>>>> the install? What messages did you see?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> And, how do you know it's not booting? What is it you expect
>>>>>>> that isn't
>>>>>>> happening? I'm presuming you're blind so aren't seeing
>>>>>>> screens. So, how
>>>>>>> do you know what you think you know?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I'm not trying to be harsh. But your message really isn't explaining
>>>>>>> anything useful for debugging.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> PS: It will also be easier to follow your explanation if you
>>>>>>> can manage
>>>>>>> to avoid run-on sentences.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Janina
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Linux for blind general discussion writes:
>>>>>>>> Hi all. After using Windows for a month, after using
>>>>>>>> Linux for two months, I've noticed that everything that
>>>>>>>> I do on Windows, I could do on Windows, and with the
>>>>>>>> Braille note Touch, I can get the Exchange emails from
>>>>>>>> the training center I'm attending, which mainly uses
>>>>>>>> Windows. So, while in Windows, I burned a USB drive with
>>>>>>>> the latest Fedora image, using Rufus, making it
>>>>>>>> bootable. So, The installation went well, but after the
>>>>>>>> computer restarted, and the flash drive was taken out,
>>>>>>>> no system came up. I've never seen that happen before,
>>>>>>>> and Googling didn't give any answers, so I'm stuck
>>>>>>>> between Vinux, and Arch. Vinux being okay I suppose, but
>>>>>>>> out of date, and Arch being hard for me to install,
>>>>>>>> without scripts although the ones I know of are broken,
>>>>>>>> but Arch is what I like, because it has anything I ask
>>>>>>>> of it. So I tried installing Fedora a few more times,
>>>>>>>> formatting the drive, but no luck. Then I accidentally
>>>>>>>> pulled the flash drive out of the USB drive for a
>>>>>>>> moment, and wh
>>>> en I pus
>>>> hed
>>>>>>>   i
>>>>>>>>   t back in, I couldq't load Orca when first starting up
>>>>>>>> the installer, so the data on that drive is probably
>>>>>>>> corrupted. So, any ideas? Should I just go with Vinux
>>>>>>>> and deal with it? The last time I tried the instructions
>>>>>>>> for installing Arch, I got stuck on setting the clock
>>>>>>>> and such, because the results I got were not the results
>>>>>>>> on the ge, so I'm just not sure what to do.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Devin Prater
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Assistive Technology Instructor in training at World
>>>>>>>> Services for the BLIND, JAWS certified
>>>>>>>> 
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>>>>>>> 
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>>>>>>> sip:janina at asterisk.rednote.net
>>>>>>> Email: janina at rednote.net
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Linux Foundation Fellow
>>>>>>> Executive Chair, Accessibility Workgroup: http://a11y.org
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> The World Wide Web Consortium (W3C), Web Accessibility
>>>>>>> Initiative (WAI)
>>>>>>> Chair, Accessible Platform Architectures http://www.w3.org/wai/apa
>>>>>>> 
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