living in the console.

Thu Jun 1 14:38:49 UTC 2017

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On Thu, 1 Jun 2017, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:

> Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2017 09:57:30
> From: Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list at redhat.com>
> To: Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list at redhat.com>
> Subject: Re: living in the console.
> 
> which is why I am going to find one on line somewhere.
> I have no actual Linux box myself.
> Kare
>
>
> On Wed, 31 May 2017, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
>
>> Oh I think there is a file somewhere called setup.exe or edbrowse-setup or 
>> something like that.
>> Sorry it has been many years since I did the setup.
>> The readme file will tell you all about it.
>> 
>> 
>> On May 31, 2017, at 10:26 PM, Linux for blind general discussion 
>> <blinux-list at redhat.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Well it must require more because when I tried visiting paypal I just got a 
>> series  of numbers and a blank page.
>> Even trying for a help menu produced the question, are you looking for 
>> business solutions?
>> Granted we may not have it fully configured here at shellworld.
>> Will hunt some sort of manual and try again,
>> Kare
>> 
>> 
>>> On Wed, 31 May 2017, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
>>> 
>>> If you mean to browse something just type:
>>> 
>>> edbrowse url
>>> or
>>> edbrowse file
>>> 
>>> Then you can use the same commands as ed.
>>> 
>>> edbrowse is also an email reader/sender and other stuff. I love it.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On May 30, 2017, at 5:08 PM, Linux for blind general discussion 
>>> <blinux-list at redhat.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Out of curiosity, what is the syntax for ebrowse?
>>> We have it here at shellworld...I think, and I wish to test something.
>>> Karen
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Fri, 26 May 2017, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Edbrowse may help for web browsing alonggg with surfraw-heavy.
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from BlueMail for iPhone
>>>> On May 25, 2017 at 7:18 PM, Linux for blind general discussion 
>>>> <blinux-list at redhat.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Tim here
>>>> 
>>>> Mark Peveto wrote
>>>> Over the last couple days or so, I've considered becoming a totally
>>>> command line linux user.
>>>> 
>>>> I'm mostly there. Web browsing is the big hurdle for much of my
>>>> day-to-day use. Lynx/links/elinks work for many things, but some
>>>> sites just need a fully modern-standards-supporting browser.
>>>> 
>>>> How would I print to my printer for example,
>>>> 
>>>> It depends on what you want to print, but it usually involves piping
>>>> things to the "lp" ("line printer") program. It can be configured to
>>>> use CUPS on the back end (and may already be configured out of the
>>>> box for you).
>>>> 
>>>> Getting fancier output would involve rendering some sort of markup.
>>>> There are tools to render HTML, LaTeX, PDFs, and even Word/LibreOffice
>>>> docs from the command-line to the printer.
>>>> 
>>>> I don't know what you want to print, but I suspect it can be done in
>>>> most cases.
>>>> 
>>>> play an entire album from my music collection.
>>>> 
>>>> It depends on your tastes, but there are literally dozens of music
>>>> players. Some, such as mpg123/mpg312/aplay/ogg123 allow you to
>>>> specify just the files you want on the command line and it will play
>>>> them. Others, like mplayer are similar but give you a little more
>>>> control over playback.
>>>> 
>>>> There's also mpd/mpc which is the Music Player Daemon/Client that
>>>> runs in the background and doesn't really have a GUI. The mpd
>>>> program runs in the background and the mpc program acts like a
>>>> remote-control, letting you create/edit playlists, control playback,
>>>> etc. I like the remote-control aspect as I can map them to
>>>> particular keys on my keyboard or aliases in the shell and have quick
>>>> access to common commands with my media-keys.
>>>> 
>>>> Personally, I use "cmus" which has a text-mode GUI but also has a
>>>> remote-control interface like mpd/mpc. I start up tmux and have a
>>>> pane for my alsamixer and cmus which lets me flip between them pretty
>>>> readily. It allows me to make play-lists, search my collection,
>>>> shuffle, etc, much like you'd be familiar with in a graphical player.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> How, also, would I create documents in something beyond text
>>>> format?
>>>> 
>>>> usually it's done with a markup that suits your tastes. I personally
>>>> have been writing HTML by hand since college in the mid 90s so that's
>>>> what I reach for. But other people like TeX/LaTeX (it does produce
>>>> some beautiful output and also has external library support for things
>>>> like music markup letting you write scores) while other people like
>>>> some of the more light-weight markup languages like Markdown or RST
>>>> or the like.
>>>> 
>>>> I'd kick the tires on a few and see what feels natural to you.
>>>> Fortunately, there's a tool called "pandoc" that lets you convert
>>>> between a large number of input/output formats so you can write in
>>>> Markdown and convert to PDF, or write in HTML and convert to MS-Word
>>>> format, or write in LaTeX and convert to ePub with minimal loss. And
>>>> it outputs any of them in plain-text (though you may lose some
>>>> information in the process since plain-text doesn't support many
>>>> features as you've acknowledged)
>>>> 
>>>> How does one ditch the guy, and still enjoy all linux has to offer
>>>> in the console?
>>>> 
>>>> One program at a time (grins). So much like each of the items above,
>>>> it's a matter of asking "I currently do XYZ in the GUI but would like
>>>> to do XYZ in the console" for whatever XYZ is your next adventure.
>>>> 
>>>> I maintain a page listing a number of common command-line tools:
>>>> 
>>>> http://tim.thechases.com/posts/cli/software-for-a-command-line-world/
>>>> 
>>>> that can point you in the direction of various applications to try
>>>> out. Some might drive you crazy while others might fit your brain
>>>> just right. They should all be free and are likely in most software
>>>> repos, so it doesn't cost you anything except a little time to try
>>>> each one out.
>>>> 
>>>> I'm willing to learn how to do this, but who ever decides to help
>>>> me is gonna hafta be patient.
>>>> 
>>>> The folks on this list are a pretty friendly & patient bunch, so
>>>> we'll be glad to help where we can.
>>>> 
>>>> -tim
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
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