Spoiler : project codenamed houdini

Sun Oct 8 19:29:01 UTC 2017

I guess that's one thing I do like more than most Linux users: I love autonumbering, and other things which a rather intelligent word processor could do. But I also like CLI programs, because screen readers can sort of look at what data is available, and speak that output correctly. For example, in some GUI screen readers, in Microsoft Word or LibreOffice, the autonumbering isn't spoken, so you have to guess that it is working. In Emacspeak, the sort of screen reader for Emacs, it looks at the info and learns that a number has been inserted. In other words, most GUI screen readers are limited to what applications decide to feed them. Some console screen readers actually go out and gather the food for themselves. :) This is the screen reader method that I think will give blind people most information, but it may not be the most elegant..

Devin Prater
Assistive Technology Instructor in Training:
JAWS certified.
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Howdy,

> of greater modularity, reducing its dependency on Python and other
> optional libraries
That would mean you want to write an screenreader  from scratch because  there is no non python  code in orca. Its fully written in py.
Python  is motly used for tasks like this because you can do stuff without  big overhead like memory allocation and pointer movements and much more. Teams are very small so its an compromis (sure c will also gain Performance  in some cases, i see that) but a more simple language  is the only reality i can see here.

>> I dislike having to install software I won't be using.
Hmm, I do not understand that sentence. Noone is using software he/she do not need? Me 2. Or do i fail here lol.

>improving compatibility with LXDE would be on
> the list of contributions
Hm isnt LXDE written in GTK? So it should wor in theorie for non custom widgets. For the custom widgets we need to figuere if the needed evens and information  is fired by the widgets. If not it needs to be fixed on LXDE side since orca will not react to no none input.

> an even larger share of my RAM and CPU usage, I feel like the only
Yea its a lot of data that needs to be send over dbus (what sadly is very slow). I realy wait for KDbus, Bus1 or whatever it is named then to boot the Performance. Hehe funny fact for difference  in  humanity, a few mails bevore some one wants to use AI networks on the other hands you want to keep CPU and RAM low. What is both ok but it shows: That different are people. With that in mind, me as developer  give up to make it right to everyone,  but just to that people who like my software or want to use it. Its not possible  to do it in another without get mentaly hurd. Peoples are going to be personal or doing  shitstorm in an total irational way.

>web browsing from the
> command line
Yea would be great. Sadly creating and maintain a browser supporting modern Technologies not only <a href=> needs an army of developers.
Script, Video, Audio, webassemblys, webGL, webSockets and all kind of web 200.0 stuff is requred to render all that crazy web today. Thats byside the problem  to bridge CLI vs GUI because how are things going to be shown if they are not renderable on CLI. Complex stuff...
> akin to using an Office Suite when a text editor would get the job
I also prefer writing in an editor anf copy it later into an wordprocessor to make formatations. I dond like software that trys to think for me lol. Autocorrection, auto linebreak, numbering blah... :) sure could be turned of but then i also just have an editor XD.

Cheers Chrys

Am Sonntag 8. Oktober 2017 schrieb Linux for blind general discuIch Ich auch auch ssion:
> I'm not a braille user, Orca is the only python application I use, and
> I dislike having to install software I won't be using. For those
> running a full desktop environment, it probably doesn't make much
> difference, but considering I do everything but web browsing from the
> command line and that Orca, Firefox, and their combined dependencies
> account for the majority of what's on my root partition and probably
> an even larger share of my RAM and CPU usage, I feel like the only
> viable solution I found thus far is rather bloated and is somewhat
> akin to using an Office Suite when a text editor would get the job
> done.
>
> That said, I have zero expectations that my opinions will have any
> impact on the pathOrca development will take, but if I had the skill,
> time, and dedication to work on such a project or the money to hire a
> dedicated team of suitably skilled coders, a fork of Orca with goals
> of greater modularity, reducing its dependency on Python and other
> optional libraries, and improving compatibility with LXDE would be on
> the list of contributions I'd want to make to accessibility.
>
> --
> Sincerely,
>
> Jeffery Wright
> President Emeritus, Nu Nu Chapter, Phi Theta Kappa.
> Former Secretary, Student Government Association, College of the Albemarle.
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