Linux distro and questions
Linux for blind general discussion
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Sat Jan 6 07:18:14 UTC 2018
Kali Linux is intended for pen testing. Post-install accessibility is
hit or miss though. This may be due to iso integrity issues which can
be handled by use of a bittorrent for downloads when available.
On Sat, 6 Jan 2018, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
> Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2018 01:13:44
> From: Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list at redhat.com>
> To: blinux-list at redhat.com
> Subject: Re: Linux distro and questions
> Le 06/01/2018 ? 02:59, Linux for blind general discussion a ?crit?:
>> Thank you all for this information.
>> I was able to get Orca to copy text from the terminal but it worked some times and did not work other times. I was also unable to review the entire contents of the terminal output using Orca. I have a feeling this might be due to my limited knowledge of Orca and all the review commands.
> Just keep in mind that even regular users cannot see all the content of
> the output if so long. To see more output, with eyes as well as with
> Orca, first ensure your terminal window is maximized. Then, ctrl-pgup
> makes scroll up the output.
>> How do you all interace with output from the terminal window? I know if you are using Linux you must primarily work in the command line, right?
> No, I work everyday with biginner users, not technical, they know 0
>> Is the new distro of Linux pretty stable? What is it? Sling or something? I really like Debian distros and would most likely go with that unless there is another distro which is better equipt for accessibility. I am using Linux for pen testing and network security so I want to make sure I have access to all the tools I will need as well as any and all console output. If speak up works well in the terminal I might just look into that since I will work primarily in the command line any ways.
> Emacspeak (or speech-el in Emavs) work too for such usage.
> Jean-Philippe MENGUAL
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>>> On Jan 5, 2018, at 6:45 PM, Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list at redhat.com> wrote:
>>> fenrir is the name of that screen reader and when run it has to be run as root with pulseaudio running as --system. I have had no luck getting fenrir running at all. Anywhere in orca cut and paste is difficult which makes setting up google drive and dropbox just about impossible along with youtube-viewer when you want to login to your youtube account since a code on a web page has to be cut then pasted back into the application. These cut and paste operations can't be done with speakup since speakup can't run with firefox or chrome or chromium. In terminal mode in orca, the edit menu is all that's likely to offer any cut and paste capability and it's limited to select all then cut then later paste. I suppose one might paste to a new file then edit that file removing any extraneous output and then maybe cutting from that file and maybe pasting where you want that output to go. A package called xclip and another called gpaste exist but I've not heard of people using ei
>> er for t
>> his work with orca yet.
>>> The speakup cut and paste facilities are really effective on the console level. I'm wondering if you have both speakup and orca running on the same system with speakup turned off while running orca could you go into terminal in orca, shut orca off with insert-q then start speakup and have speakup talk you through what's going on in the terminal? I think even if this were done and you could do a good cut operation with speakup probably once speakup were turned off and terminal were exited and orca was turned back on a paste operation couldn't be done with the cut material from speakup since speakup and whatever graphical user environment being run both use different clipboard memory real estate. If both use the same memory space more would be possible.
>>> On Fri, 5 Jan 2018, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
>>>> Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2018 20:20:09
>>>> From: Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list at redhat.com>
>>>> To: Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list at redhat.com>
>>>> Subject: Re: Linux distro and questions
>>>> Well Brian, I can answer 2 items in your list. Yes, Speakup has a quite good review function, similar but lots better than NVDA in windows. What really comes in handy are the cut-and-past ability which I use all the time. As for your laptop, why not try Vinux 5.1, currently based on Ubuntu, but soon switching to Fedora.
>>>> O-and-there is also a Fenrar screen-reader, but I know little about it.
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