Linux distro and questions
Linux for blind general discussion
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Sat Jan 6 15:55:35 UTC 2018
I tried installing the light version of kali linux and was able to
install it with speech but post install I'm not even sure I ever managed
to login. If I did log in, speech was most definitely off and I
couldn't run speaker-test or start espeakup once logged in. Next time I
try that, I'll use be my eyes to look at my monitor and tell me what's
going on.
On Sat, 6 Jan 2018, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
> Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2018 02:18:14
> From: Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list at redhat.com>
> To: Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list at redhat.com>
> Subject: Re: Linux distro and questions
>
> Kali Linux is intended for pen testing. Post-install accessibility is hit or
> miss though. This may be due to iso integrity issues which can be handled by
> use of a bittorrent for downloads when available.
>
> On Sat, 6 Jan 2018, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
>
>> Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2018 01:13:44
>> From: Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list at redhat.com>
>> To: blinux-list at redhat.com
>> Subject: Re: Linux distro and questions
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Le 06/01/2018 ? 02:59, Linux for blind general discussion a ?crit?:
>>> Thank you all for this information.
>>> I was able to get Orca to copy text from the terminal but it worked some
>>> times and did not work other times. I was also unable to review the
>>> entire contents of the terminal output using Orca. I have a feeling this
>>> might be due to my limited knowledge of Orca and all the review commands.
>>
>> Just keep in mind that even regular users cannot see all the content of
>> the output if so long. To see more output, with eyes as well as with
>> Orca, first ensure your terminal window is maximized. Then, ctrl-pgup
>> makes scroll up the output.
>>
>>>
>>> How do you all interace with output from the terminal window? I know if
>>> you are using Linux you must primarily work in the command line, right?
>>
>> No, I work everyday with biginner users, not technical, they know 0
>> commands.
>>
>>> Is the new distro of Linux pretty stable? What is it? Sling or something?
>>> I really like Debian distros and would most likely go with that unless
>>> there is another distro which is better equipt for accessibility. I am
>>> using Linux for pen testing and network security so I want to make sure I
>>> have access to all the tools I will need as well as any and all console
>>> output. If speak up works well in the terminal I might just look into
>>> that since I will work primarily in the command line any ways.
>>
>> Emacspeak (or speech-el in Emavs) work too for such usage.
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Jean-Philippe MENGUAL
>>
>>> Bryan Duarte | software engineer
>>>
>>> ASU Computer Science Ph.D Student
>>> IGERT Fellow
>>> Alliance for Person-centered Accessible Technology (APAcT)
>>> Center for Cognitive Ubiquitous Computing (CUbiC Lab)
>>> National Federation of the Blind of Arizona | Affiliate Board Member
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>>> Phone: 480-652-3045
>>>
>>>> On Jan 5, 2018, at 6:45 PM, Linux for blind general discussion
>>>> <blinux-list at redhat.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> fenrir is the name of that screen reader and when run it has to be run
>>>> as root with pulseaudio running as --system. I have had no luck getting
>>>> fenrir running at all. Anywhere in orca cut and paste is difficult which
>>>> makes setting up google drive and dropbox just about impossible along
>>>> with youtube-viewer when you want to login to your youtube account since
>>>> a code on a web page has to be cut then pasted back into the
>>>> application. These cut and paste operations can't be done with speakup
>>>> since speakup can't run with firefox or chrome or chromium. In terminal
>>>> mode in orca, the edit menu is all that's likely to offer any cut and
>>>> paste capability and it's limited to select all then cut then later
>>>> paste. I suppose one might paste to a new file then edit that file
>>>> removing any extraneous output and then maybe cutting from that file and
>>>> maybe pasting where you want that output to go. A package called xclip
>>>> and another called gpaste exist but I've not heard of people using ei
> th
>>> er for t
>>> his work with orca yet.
>>>> The speakup cut and paste facilities are really effective on the console
>>>> level. I'm wondering if you have both speakup and orca running on the
>>>> same system with speakup turned off while running orca could you go into
>>>> terminal in orca, shut orca off with insert-q then start speakup and
>>>> have speakup talk you through what's going on in the terminal? I think
>>>> even if this were done and you could do a good cut operation with
>>>> speakup probably once speakup were turned off and terminal were exited
>>>> and orca was turned back on a paste operation couldn't be done with the
>>>> cut material from speakup since speakup and whatever graphical user
>>>> environment being run both use different clipboard memory real estate.
>>>> If both use the same memory space more would be possible.
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, 5 Jan 2018, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2018 20:20:09
>>>>> From: Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list at redhat.com>
>>>>> To: Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list at redhat.com>
>>>>> Subject: Re: Linux distro and questions
>>>>> Well Brian, I can answer 2 items in your list. Yes, Speakup has a quite
>>>>> good review function, similar but lots better than NVDA in windows.
>>>>> What really comes in handy are the cut-and-past ability which I use all
>>>>> the time. As for your laptop, why not try Vinux 5.1, currently based on
>>>>> Ubuntu, but soon switching to Fedora.
>>>>> O-and-there is also a Fenrar screen-reader, but I know little about it.
>>>>> Chime
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