Linux distro and questions

Sat Jan 6 15:55:35 UTC 2018

I tried installing the light version of kali linux and was able to 
install it with speech but post install I'm not even sure I ever managed 
to login.  If I did log in, speech was most definitely off and I 
couldn't run speaker-test or start espeakup once logged in.  Next time I 
try that, I'll use be my eyes to look at my monitor and tell me what's 
going on.

On Sat, 6 Jan 2018, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:

> Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2018 02:18:14
> From: Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list at redhat.com>
> To: Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list at redhat.com>
> Subject: Re: Linux distro and questions
> 
> Kali Linux is intended for pen testing.  Post-install accessibility is hit or 
> miss though.  This may be due to iso integrity issues which can be handled by 
> use of a bittorrent for downloads when available.
>
> On Sat, 6 Jan 2018, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
>
>>  Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2018 01:13:44
>>  From: Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list at redhat.com>
>>  To: blinux-list at redhat.com
>>  Subject: Re: Linux distro and questions
>>
>>  Hi,
>>
>>  Le 06/01/2018 ? 02:59, Linux for blind general discussion a ?crit?:
>>>  Thank you all for this information.
>>>  I was able to get Orca to copy text from the terminal but it worked some
>>>  times and did not work other times. I was also unable to review the
>>>  entire contents of the terminal output using Orca. I have a feeling this
>>>  might be due to my limited knowledge of Orca and all the review commands. 
>>
>>  Just keep in mind that even regular users cannot see all the content of
>>  the output if so long. To see more output, with eyes as well as with
>>  Orca, first ensure your terminal window is maximized. Then, ctrl-pgup
>>  makes scroll up  the output.
>>
>>>
>>>  How do you all interace with output from the terminal window? I know if
>>>  you are using Linux you must primarily work in the command line, right? 
>>
>>  No, I work everyday with biginner users, not technical, they know 0
>>  commands.
>>
>>>  Is the new distro of Linux pretty stable? What is it? Sling or something?
>>>  I really like Debian distros and would most likely go with that unless
>>>  there is another distro which is better equipt for accessibility. I am
>>>  using Linux for pen testing and network security so I want to make sure I
>>>  have access to all the tools I will need as well as any and all console
>>>  output. If speak up works well in the terminal I might just look into
>>>  that since I will work primarily in the command line any ways. 
>>
>>  Emacspeak (or speech-el in Emavs) work too for such usage.
>>
>>  Regards
>>
>>  Jean-Philippe MENGUAL
>>
>>>  Bryan Duarte | software engineer
>>>
>>>  ASU Computer Science Ph.D Student
>>>  IGERT Fellow
>>>  Alliance for Person-centered Accessible Technology (APAcT)
>>>  Center for Cognitive Ubiquitous Computing (CUbiC Lab)
>>>  National Federation of the Blind of Arizona | Affiliate Board Member
>>>  National Association of Blind Students | Board Member
>>>  Arizona Association of Blind Students | President
>>>  Phone: 480-652-3045
>>>
>>>>  On Jan 5, 2018, at 6:45 PM, Linux for blind general discussion
>>>>  <blinux-list at redhat.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>  fenrir is the name of that screen reader and when run it has to be run
>>>>  as root with pulseaudio running as --system.  I have had no luck getting
>>>>  fenrir running at all. Anywhere in orca cut and paste is difficult which
>>>>  makes setting up google drive and dropbox just about impossible along
>>>>  with youtube-viewer when you want to login to your youtube account since
>>>>  a code on a web page has to be cut then pasted back into the
>>>>  application.  These cut and paste operations can't be done with speakup
>>>>  since speakup can't run with firefox or chrome or chromium.  In terminal
>>>>  mode in orca, the edit menu is all that's likely to offer any cut and
>>>>  paste capability and it's limited to select all then cut then later
>>>>  paste.  I suppose one might paste to a new file then edit that file
>>>>  removing any extraneous output and then maybe cutting from that file and
>>>>  maybe pasting where you want that output to go.  A package called xclip
>>>>  and another called gpaste exist but I've not heard of people using ei
> th
>>>   er for t
>>>   his work with orca yet.
>>>>  The speakup cut and paste facilities are really effective on the console
>>>>  level.  I'm wondering if you have both speakup and orca running on the
>>>>  same system with speakup turned off while running orca could you go into
>>>>  terminal in orca, shut orca off with insert-q then start speakup and
>>>>  have speakup talk you through what's going on in the terminal?  I think
>>>>  even if this were done and you could do a good cut operation with
>>>>  speakup probably once speakup were turned off and terminal were exited
>>>>  and orca was turned back on a paste operation couldn't be done with the
>>>>  cut material from speakup since speakup and whatever graphical user
>>>>  environment being run both use different clipboard memory real estate.
>>>>  If both use the same memory space more would be possible.
>>>>
>>>>  On Fri, 5 Jan 2018, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>  Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2018 20:20:09
>>>>>  From: Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list at redhat.com>
>>>>>  To: Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list at redhat.com>
>>>>>  Subject: Re: Linux distro and questions
>>>>>  Well Brian, I can answer 2 items in your list. Yes, Speakup has a quite
>>>>>  good review function, similar but lots better than NVDA in windows.
>>>>>  What really comes in handy are the cut-and-past ability which I use all
>>>>>  the time. As for your laptop, why not try Vinux 5.1, currently based on
>>>>>  Ubuntu, but soon switching to Fedora.
>>>>>  O-and-there is also a Fenrar screen-reader, but I know little about it.
>>>>>  Chime
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