web hosting ideas?

Sat Jul 7 23:51:35 UTC 2018

Well crud.  I just got suckered by an April Fools joke post

http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?t=1036224

reading the subject & body, but not noting the date.

Thanks, Joel, for catching my goof!  Sorry about any confusion there.

That said, EIG-owned hosting services are still horrible and should
be avoided at all costs.

-Tim

On July  7, 2018, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
> Tim, 
> 
> Whatever other problems dreamhost has, it does not appear on
> the list of EIG-owned hosting companies that you linked. 
> 
> -joel
> 
> On Sat, Jul 07, 2018 at 04:59:59PM -0500, Linux for blind general
> discussion wrote:
> > Tim here.
> > 
> > First, my condolences regarding Dreamhost.  They used to be good,
> > but they were bought out by EIG (Endurance International Group).
> > That's EIG's MO.  They buy good hosting companies to obtain the
> > customers and then ruin the property.  Twice now I've found a
> > great hosting company and migrated there, only to have EIG buy
> > them out and turn it to [stream of profanity here].  So my first
> > word of advice is to check lists of EIG-owned properties and
> > avoid them like the plague. Here's one such list
> > 
> > https://researchasahobby.com/full-list-eig-hosting-companies-brands/
> > 
> > I'd also avoid "1&1" hosting based on my past experiences with
> > them.
> > 
> > Once you know who *not* to pick, it depends on how much
> > management you want the hosting company to do. There's managed
> > (often called "shared" hosting) and unmanaged "VPS" (virtual
> > private server) hosting. It sounds like you currently have
> > managed hosting where the hosting service takes care of email,
> > configuring your web-server & database, and you just customize
> > with your domain-name, web-content/applications, and
> > mail-addresses.  It can usually be found cheaper than VPS hosting
> > because they share one server's resources across a LOT of
> > customers.
> > 
> > With a VPS it's more like tou get a virtual machine and you're
> > responsible for administering it.  You can usually choose the OS
> > (usually from popular Linux distributions, but some also provide
> > FreeBSD or OpenBSD which I've come to prefer), choose which
> > servers you want to run (mail, web-server, database, IRC,
> > whatever), install those, and you are responsible for upgrades
> > too.  For these, I've been pleased with (or heard good things
> > from people I trust about) OVH, Vultr, Digital Ocean, and
> > Linode.  For basic email and light web-hosting, any of their
> > low-end plans should suffice, including Vultr's $2.50/mo which is
> > about the lowest-price-for-best-features I've seen.  Most of the
> > others have reasonable starter plans around $5/mo which may be a
> > better price-point for you.  With 1GB of RAM and 20-30GB of
> > disk-space, you shouldn't have any issues (unless you're hosting
> > large files).
> > 
> > For managed/shared hosting, here are a couple recent reviews of
> > such services:
> > 
> > https://www.cnet.com/web-hosting/
> > 
> > https://researchasahobby.com/best-website-hosting-companies-fooling/reliable-web-hosting-recommend/
> > 
> > though I'd eliminate any EIG properties from consideration.  There
> > are lots of such services and they vary in cost depending on how
> > much hand-holding you need, phone-support, whether you want SSH
> > access (I consider this a must-have), disk space, number of
> > databases and email addresses, etc.  You should be able to get
> > something pretty reasonable for $5/month.
> > 
> > -tim
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > On July  7, 2018, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:  
> > > Hi folks,
> > > I realize many of you do your own servers and the like, so I am
> > > going to ask this question with great care.  My needs are rather
> > > specific, and even if they seem old fashioned, they are rooted
> > > in part in how my specific disability experiences manifest just
> > > now. I work with a nonprofit organization with several program
> > > areas in more than one country.
> > > presently our  web needs are housed with dreamhost.
> > > www.dreamhost.com
> > > Their hosting accounts include a fairly solid shell structure,
> > > in Ubuntu, including programs like alpine.  I use ssh  telnet
> > > to reach these services and must have comparative access where
> > > ever i go. Dreamhost made security changes about a week ago
> > > which now block my ssh access.  while I may discover a work
> > > around, their mail server behavior has been loopy for a while
> > > so...a blessing lies in all this mayhem. I am going to contact
> > > one shell service of which I am already aware, preferring not
> > > to bring all of my Internet life here to shellworld. So, yes
> > > there is a question laughs. Can you suggest a comparative
> > > hosting service that a, provides a functional shell as apart of
> > > their account. b allows for more than one domain to be hosted
> > > with them, including sftp access and a great deal of account
> > > space. c. has good customer service
> > > and
> > > d, is reasonably priced?
> > > dreamhost donates hosting accounts to 501c3 organizations, so it
> > > has been a free ride.
> > > I do not expect that to continue, but I do  hope to find
> > > something reasonable.
> > > 
> > > Thanks for your ideas if any.
> > > Oh, I have no interest whatsoever in hosting my needs on my
> > > own.  I lack both the resources and talent for such a venture
> > > here in Toronto. Thanks,
> > > Karen
> > > 
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