slint and vlc

Linux for blind general discussion blinux-list at redhat.com
Sat Jun 23 23:14:33 UTC 2018


Short answer: it's not serious, long answer in my reply to your post in
the orca mailing list, cf
https://mail.gnome.org/archives/orca-list/2018-June/msg00189.html

Anyway, thanks for reporting, I will take care of that one way or
another.

Best,

Didier

Le 23/06/2018 à 15:45, Linux for blind general discussion a écrit :
> Okay, upgrade complete and /etc/asound.conf has been removed.
> Whenever I run orca-off and orca-on I get the following warning in this
> environment:
> (process:1420): dconf-WARNING **: failed to commit changes to dconf:
> Error spawning command line 'dbus-launch
> --autolaunch=1029b2d79b4da8ff62d6b7bf5a1d0b3d --binary-syntax
> --close-stderr': Child process exited with code 1
> Orca has been enabled for user jude.
> 
> I don't know what that means and don't know if it's serious or
> potentially serious but figured to pass it along.
> On Sat, 23 Jun 2018,
> Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
> 
>> Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2018 18:19:27
>> From: Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list at redhat.com>
>> To: blinux-list at redhat.com
>> Subject: Re: slint and vlc
>>
>> This system is not completely up to date.
>>
>> Please remove these lines in /etc/asound.conf
>> pcm.default pulse
>> ctl.default pulse
>> or just remove the file.
>>
>> Also, speech dispatcher should now be at version 0.8.8, so check in
>> /etc/slapt-get/slapt-getrc that you have exactly this line:
>> SOURCE=http://slackware.uk/slint/x86_64/slint-14.2.1/:PREFERRED
>>
>> then to get the updated package type:
>> slapt-get -u # just in case
>> slapt-get -i speech-dispatcher
>>
>> As an aside, I tried to use libao as audio backend of speech-dispatcher
>> and I get better results that using alsa directly.
>>
>> This confirms what Halim Sahin posted today on the orca mailing list in
>> response to a post from Janina (and what already told me Samuel Thibault
>> or Kyle IIRC).
>>
>> But I will do more testing before uploading an updated package and
>> anyway you should already get better settings doing what I wrote above.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Didier
>>
>> Le 22/06/2018 ? 23:13, Linux for blind general discussion a ?crit?:
>>> Now I'm going to check vlc but did want to say putting the dmix line and
>>> the dsnoop line in /etc/pulse/default.pa enabled orca to work.  Speech
>>> sounds like it's coming through a napkin held close to a comb when orca
>>> starts up and when orca shuts down but once inside orca I think seems to
>>> work.  I set preferences and all that speech sounded clear but
>>> environment outside of orca preferences seems a bit silent every so
>>> often.  Some parts of the desktop seem a little silent but I may be
>>> typing too fast again.  This machine has much more memory on it than the
>>> old machine had so we shouldn't be having problems for lack of memory.
>>>
>>> On Thu, 21 Jun 2018, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
>>>
>>>> Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2018 17:31:43
>>>> From: Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list at redhat.com>
>>>> To: blinux-list at redhat.com
>>>> Subject: Re: slint and vlc
>>>>
>>>> Hello Jude,
>>>>
>>>> The output of alsacap indicates that your card 0 is currently in use
>>>> by orca or espeakup, as that's why it says:
>>>>> Error opening sound device for card 0, device 0: Device or resource
>>>>> busy.  Skipping.
>>>>
>>>> This is a good thing, as currently if the HDMI card was the first one
>>>> you would get no sound at all, unless you attach an audio equipment
>>>> to the HDMI port.
>>>>
>>>> As an aside, in next Slint ISO this will be fixed as the working sound
>>>> card will be probed during installation, but that's not the issue here.
>>>>
>>>> To investigate further I need to know the exact version of some
>>>> packages. Please indicate their whole full name in /var/log/packages:
>>>> espeak
>>>> espeak-ng
>>>> orca
>>>> portaudio
>>>> speech-dispatcher
>>>>
>>>> Also, please provide the content of /etc/asound.conf and the output of:
>>>> grep dmix /etc/pulse/default.pa
>>>> grep dsnoop /etc/pulse/default.pa
>>>>
>>>> To elaborate, if your system is up to date you should have an absent or
>>>> empty /etc/asound.conf (commented lines put aside)
>>>> and /etc/pulse/default.pa should include these two lines:
>>>> load-module module-alsa-sink device=dmix
>>>> load-module module-alsa-source device=dsnoop
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>>
>>>> Didier
>>>>
>>>> Le 21/06/2018 ? 16:35, Linux for blind general discussion a ?crit?:
>>>>> Okay, here is alsacap output:
>>>>> jude at taf:~$ alsacap
>>>>> *** Scanning for playback devices ***
>>>>> Card 0, ID `SB', name `HDA ATI SB'
>>>>>   Device 0, ID `ALC892 Analog', name `ALC892 Analog', 1 subdevices (0
>>>>> available)
>>>>> Error opening sound device for card 0, device 0: Device or resource
>>>>> busy.  Skipping.
>>>>> Card 1, ID `NVidia', name `HDA NVidia'
>>>>>   Device 3, ID `HDMI 0', name `HDMI 0', 1 subdevices (1 available)
>>>>>     2..8 channels, sampling rate 32000..192000 Hz
>>>>>     Sample formats: S16_LE, S32_LE
>>>>>       Subdevice 0, name `subdevice #0'
>>>>>   Device 7, ID `HDMI 1', name `HDMI 1', 1 subdevices (1 available)
>>>>>     2..8 channels, sampling rate 32000..192000 Hz
>>>>>     Sample formats: S16_LE, S32_LE
>>>>>       Subdevice 0, name `subdevice #0'
>>>>> j
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu,
>>>>> 21 Jun 2018, Linux for blind
>>>>> general
>>>>> discussion wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2018 19:09:17
>>>>>> From: Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list at redhat.com>
>>>>>> To: blinux-list at redhat.com
>>>>>> Subject: Re: slint and vlc
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Then, my assumption is that the issue is having both alsa and
>>>>>> pulseaudio working at the same time, which works now but not
>>>>>> so well previously. I will make some tests myself on a previous version
>>>>>> tomorrow (it's late here), but probably you need to upgrade Slint
>>>>>> to the current version.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Please tell if you tried both in a console (aka tty) and in a graphical
>>>>>> environment, so that I can reproduce your situation.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Didier
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Le 21/06/2018 ? 00:54, Linux for blind general discussion a ?crit?:
>>>>>>> Okay, I have sound with espeakup and orca.  I do not use a braille
>>>>>>> device.
>>>>>>> On Thu, 21 Jun 2018, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2018 18:07:46
>>>>>>>> From: Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list at redhat.com>
>>>>>>>> To: Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list at redhat.com>
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: slint and vlc
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Both work here, so there should be an issue with your sound settings
>>>>>>>> or installation. Example:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> didier[~]$ play /usr/share/sounds/purple/login.wav
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> /usr/share/sounds/purple/login.wav:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  File Size: 192k      Bit Rate: 706k
>>>>>>>>   Encoding: Signed PCM
>>>>>>>>   Channels: 2 @ 16-bit
>>>>>>>> Samplerate: 22050Hz
>>>>>>>> Replaygain: off
>>>>>>>>   Duration: 00:00:02.18
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> In:100%  00:00:02.18 [00:00:00.00] Out:48.1k [      |      ]        Clip:0
>>>>>>>> Done.
>>>>>>>> didier[~]$
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I did hear the "tune".
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Do you have sound with other apps, including espeakup and/or orca?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I ask because you don't say if you use speech or a Braille device.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Didier
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Le 20/06/2018 ? 23:55, Linux for blind general discussion a ?crit?:
>>>>>>>>> A little more background, I haven't been able to get
>>>>>>>>> /usr/share/sounds/purple/login.wav to play with aplay or play or paplay.
>>>>>>>>>  No error returns but neither does any sound.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 20 Jun 2018, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2018 14:55:15
>>>>>>>>>> From: Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list at redhat.com>
>>>>>>>>>> To: blinux-list at redhat.com
>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: slint and vlc
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Le 20/06/2018 ? 20:38, Linux for blind general discussion a ?crit?:
>>>>>>>>>>> I have an old version of slint running on the new computer.  What I am
>>>>>>>>>>> curious about is if vlc can play any url or local files on the machine
>>>>>>>>>>> once downloaded.  So far it doesn't on this older version of slint.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> That's weird, vlc should play pretty much any file, local or remote.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The version of Slint shouldn't matter at all.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >From "vlc -h":
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> <quoted text begins below>
>>>>>>>>>> Usage: vlc [options] [stream] ...
>>>>>>>>>> You can specify multiple streams on the commandline.
>>>>>>>>>> They will be enqueued in the playlist.
>>>>>>>>>> The first item specified will be played first.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Options-styles:
>>>>>>>>>>   --option  A global option that is set for the duration of the program.
>>>>>>>>>>    -option  A single letter version of a global --option.
>>>>>>>>>>    :option  An option that only applies to the stream directly before it
>>>>>>>>>>             and that overrides previous settings.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Stream MRL syntax:
>>>>>>>>>>   [[access][/demux]://]URL[#[title][:chapter][-[title][:chapter]]]
>>>>>>>>>>   [:option=value ...]
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>   Many of the global --options can also be used as MRL specific :options.
>>>>>>>>>>   Multiple :option=value pairs can be specified.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> URL syntax:
>>>>>>>>>>   file:///path/file              Plain media file
>>>>>>>>>>   http://host[:port]/file        HTTP URL
>>>>>>>>>>   ftp://host[:port]/file         FTP URL
>>>>>>>>>>   mms://host[:port]/file         MMS URL
>>>>>>>>>>   screen://                      Screen capture
>>>>>>>>>>   dvd://[device]                 DVD device
>>>>>>>>>>   vcd://[device]                 VCD device
>>>>>>>>>>   cdda://[device]                Audio CD device
>>>>>>>>>>   udp://[[<source address>]@[<bind address>][:<bind port>]]
>>>>>>>>>>                                  UDP stream sent by a streaming server
>>>>>>>>>>   vlc://pause:<seconds>          Pause the playlist for a certain time
>>>>>>>>>>   vlc://quit                     Special item to quit VLC
>>>>>>>>>> <end of quoted text>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Doesn't this syntax work for you?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Here (but I don't think that the VLC version matter either):
>>>>>>>>>> didier[~]$ LANG=en_US.utf8 vlc --version
>>>>>>>>>> VLC media player 2.2.8 Weatherwax (revision 2.2.7-14-g3cc1d8cba9)
>>>>>>>>>> VLC version 2.2.8 Weatherwax (2.2.7-14-g3cc1d8cba9)
>>>>>>>>>> Compiled by root on stable.slint.net (Jan 18 2018 00:49:03)
>>>>>>>>>> Compiler: gcc version 5.3.0 (GCC)
>>>>>>>>>> This program comes with NO WARRANTY, to the extent permitted by law.
>>>>>>>>>> You may redistribute it under the terms of the GNU General Public License;
>>>>>>>>>> see the file named COPYING for details.
>>>>>>>>>> Written by the VideoLAN team; see the AUTHORS file.
>>>>>>>>>> didier[~]$
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Didier
>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>> Slint distribution
>>>>>>>>>> http://slint.fr
>>>>>>>>>> http://slackware.uk/slint/x86_64/slint-14.2.1/
>>
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