Other accessible terminal emulation

Mon Nov 19 21:36:48 UTC 2018

Howdy,

> xterm doesn't speak but with fenrir it can? Would you be willing to
> make a recording of this in action?
Hmm? I could do this but what should be the result you wish? It will just sound like your TTS system, reading your shell and command line applications. So the same like in TTY. In fact it walks the same codepaths but collecting the data is done different.

If you want to try and need help you may want to take a look at our IRC 
network:
irc.linux-a11y.org
room:
#a11y

Its more easy do support in realtime instead of long mailing ping pong :)

Cheers Chrys

> Am 19.11.2018 um 21:28 schrieb Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list at redhat.com>:
> 
> xterm doesn't speak but with fenrir it can? Would you be willing to
> make a recording of this in action?
> 
>> On 11/19/18, Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list at redhat.com> wrote:
>> Howdy,
>> 
>>> Also, previous messages in this thread would suggest it works just as
>>> well in a Terminal Emulator as from the terminal itse
>> yea exactly. Fenrir provides "drivers" to provide different backends
>> (speech, braille (WIP), input, sound, remote and screen)
>> currently i implement 2 different screen drivers.
>> 1. vcsaDriver: uses /dev/vcsa[1-x] as information source to provide
>> information on the screen. this just works for real TTY terminal with an
>> existing VCSA device
>> 2. ptyDriver: uses pty, fork, and pyte to stand as "man in the middle"
>> (like yasr did but in a lot more advanced state). so it spawns an
>> terminal and  captures any input you did and watches to the output of
>> its child process, processing it and pass it through.
>> i suggest to use XTERM or another inaccessible terminal emulator to my
>> users, because they don't conflict with orca at all (input (shortcuts)
>> and output).
>> 
>>> built-in support for Unicode(arguably of limited use for
>> fenrir provides Unicode support as well for any language form just the
>> beginning (on VCSA and PTY).
>> 
>>> No idea why Fenrir is named after the Wolf from Norse mythology,
>> hehe because i m a rebel ;). Just kidding. the naming was strom_dragons
>> idea ;).
>> 
>> sadly i m not a good software deployer, so i just provide packages for
>> ArchLinux (since i use it). I also see some debian packages ( i never
>> tested or tried them, currenlty).
>> But fenrir runs also without any installation just from git, (the
>> dependencies are needed of course).
>> so if anyone is good in deploying software for different distros with
>> setup.py or similar, just tell me :).
>> 
>> cheers chrys
>> 
>>> Am 19.11.18 um 18:30 schrieb Linux for blind general discussion:
>>> Fenrir is a text-mode, userspace screen reader written in Python. I
>>> haven't used it myself, but its gaining popularity as an alternative
>>> to espeakup. The two biggest pros I've heard is that, as a user space
>>> application, it doesn't require a kernel module(espeakup requires the
>>> speakup kernel module) and should thus be easier to setup on distros
>>> that don't ship staging modules in their default kernels(speakup has
>>> been trapped in staging for years and has little chance of graduating
>>> to kernel main short of a complete rewrite as I understand it) and
>>> built-in support for Unicode(arguably of limited use for
>>> English-speaking users, but could be vital to those whose native
>>> language uses a non-Latin Alphabet).
>>> 
>>> Also, previous messages in this thread would suggest it works just as
>>> well in a Terminal Emulator as from the terminal itself, which I don't
>>> believe I've heard suggest of espeakup or SBL, the latter which I use
>>> for terminal speech myself(I only run X for Firefox, so I can't
>>> comment on the question of Terminal Emulators).
>>> 
>>> No idea why Fenrir is named after the Wolf from Norse mythology,
>>> especially since its traditional to name screen readers after marine
>>> animals and this is the only screen reader I know of with a non-marine
>>> animal-based name.
>>> 
>>> On 11/19/18, Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list at redhat.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>> What is fenrir?
>>>> 
>>>> On 11/19/18, Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list at redhat.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> Howdy,
>>>>> 
>>>>> gnome-terminal works as well.
>>>>> 
>>>>> you also can use fenrir to make an terminal emulator accessible by
>>>>> starting it with:
>>>>> fenrir -e (for using escape sequence shortcuts)
>>>>> sudo fenrir -E (using evdev, can only run once)
>>>>> 
>>>>> cheers chrys
>>>>> Zitat von Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list at redhat.com>:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Is there any other accessible terminal emulators besides using mate
>>>>>> terminal in a window manager?
>>>>>> 
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