validating Jenux-2019.03.05-x86_64.iso

Tue Apr 9 13:45:30 UTC 2019

Howdy Didier,

> Maybe you'd like me to replace espeakup by fenrir in Slint installer <smile>
this is not my decision but that one of your users :). but it made me  
smile to see that the guys on the jenux list (link posted below) seems  
to like it pretty much.
https://forum.audiogames.net/topic/26881/jenux-os-the-next-jen/page/10/

read stuff like its awsome, more responsive then others or very  
flexible and stuff like that is an big complement to me and all others  
who helped to make it possible :). and keep in mind that fenrir isnt  
10 or 20 years old but just 3. so this is the place where i want to  
say thanks to you and all other contributors, testers, maintainers  
(storm_dragon) :) what suupports me.

for me its an amazing result was started as my small summer project  
and in fact that i dont need a screenreader at all.

> I didn't check how the review keys differ between speakup
> and fenrir. Wouldn't that be an issue for people accustomed
> to speakup?
hard to say as fenrir supports multible keyboard layouts. i know that  
F123 created a layout close to NVDA. not sure how different are the  
layouts or how different they are to speakup for example.

cheers chrys

Zitat von Didier Spaier <didier at slint.fr>:

> Howdy Chrys,
>
> Maybe you'd like me to replace espeakup by fenrir in Slint installer <smile>
>
> What would readers of this list think?
>
> I didn't check how the review keys differ between speakup
> and fenrir. Wouldn't that be an issue for people accustomed
> to speakup?
>
> Anyway that would not be for tomorrow morning...
>
> Best,
>
> Didier
>
>
>
> On 09/04/2019 14:21, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
>> Howdy,
>>
>>> I did find out fenrir is used for the installer so that's why the
>>> speakup screen review keys don't work.  First time I had fenrir really
>>> working on hardware and it worked pretty well.
>> oh really? cool :). nice to hear you liked it and interesting to me  
>> that jenux uses it.
>>
>>>>> Much speech is unnecessary in the installer and there's no way  
>>>>> to temporarily silence
>>>>> that speech.
>> If fenrir i used there is a way for temp silence (temp means to  
>> next keystroke right?)
>> i think its by default on "numlock enter" key. so you will be able  
>> to use it next time you need it :).
>>
>> cheers chrys
>>
>> Zitat von Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list at redhat.com>:
>>
>>> I did find out fenrir is used for the installer so that's why the
>>> speakup screen review keys don't work.  First time I had fenrir really
>>> working on hardware and it worked pretty well.
>>>
>>> On Mon, 8 Apr 2019, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
>>>
>>>> Date: Mon, 8 Apr 2019 09:46:21
>>>> From: Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list at redhat.com>
>>>> To: blinux-list at redhat.com
>>>> Subject: Re: validating Jenux-2019.03.05-x86_64.iso
>>>>
>>>> ??? On the subject of validation keys, this is secondhand  
>>>> information, but I
>>>> have heard from a source I (personally) trust who has been in  
>>>> calls with the
>>>> developer of this....that the source asked the dev to put in  
>>>> validation info,
>>>> and was told, flat out, oh it's not needed because nobody gets corrupt
>>>> downloads. Despite people claiming otherwise, this is the same  
>>>> developer who
>>>> in a forum topic blamed myself and other users having legitimate  
>>>> issues trying
>>>> to install this on physical hardware on us doing things wrong.  
>>>> Download fails?
>>>> User error. Partition script fails and screws up the HD or won't  
>>>> detect the HD
>>>> layouts, user error because the user *must have* done something wrong. The
>>>> same dev, by the way, who spent 45 minutes arguing with my  
>>>> trusted source over
>>>> how he didn't need to put an alpha tag on the iso and claimed it was a
>>>> finished product, despite it being Arch based and a rolling release.
>>>>
>>>> If it seems like I'm coming off as overly negative....I am. I  
>>>> like the idea,
>>>> but....I have had nothing but issue after issue with it. It works  
>>>> fine in a
>>>> virtual machine, but I have had nothing but issues using up to 10  
>>>> USB drives,
>>>> and five different machines of varying hardware specs, both  
>>>> legacy and UEFI
>>>> boot, and it did not successfully install once. The link to the thread in
>>>> question is.....
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> https://forum.audiogames.net/topic/26881/jenux-os-the-next-jen/
>>>>
>>>> See for yourself in this topic. Hacker, on that forum, is the  
>>>> developer. See
>>>> for yourself about the issues that community faced with Jenux  
>>>> across a number
>>>> of users, machines and hardware specs
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 08/04/2019 00:06, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > I'm in process of trashing that iso, another problem is review keys
>>>> > don't work while doing installs.  All that happens is ansi codes get put
>>>> > out on the screen when speakup review keys get used.  Much speech is
>>>> > unnecessary in the installer and there's no way to temporarily silence
>>>> > that speech.  That installer would benefit from an ability to make and
>>>> > save log files as it goes about its work with warnings errors and fatals
>>>> > along with processes being logged, but shoe string efforts are shoe
>>>> > string efforts in all events.
>>>> >
>>>> > On Sat, 6 Apr 2019, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >> Date: Sat, 6 Apr 2019 07:02:40
>>>> >> From: Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list at redhat.com>
>>>> >> To: blinux-list at redhat.com
>>>> >> Subject: validating Jenux-2019.03.05-x86_64.iso
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Has anyone got validation information for this iso?  It's not easily
>>>> >> locateable with google or on the https://jennios.com/ web site.
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
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