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Wed Apr 24 21:31:14 UTC 2019

This is interesting!  It feels mighty late in my life to just learn this.
(I once made some use of Duxbury.)

Al

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The Duxbury Braille Translator, which produces many of the BRF files in the
wild, produces all alphabetic characters in the contracted or uncontracted
braille file in the uppercase range, 41H through 5AH. Capitalization is
indicated by the rules for the use of single or multiple dot 6's,
termination signs, etc. In addition, if the translator is going to output
dot 4, 4-5, 4-5-6, ou sign, ow sign, er sign, These symbols will be
represented as 40H or 5BH through 5FH. Displays and embossers running in
six-dot mode will ignore this distinction, but embossers or displays that
are in 8-dot mode will probably put a dot 7 under all of these characters.
All of this is a consequence of the fact that we are trying to represent 95
printable characters with only 63 braille characters.
If Duxbury is asked to create a .bru (unformatted braille) file, lowercase
range symbols between 60H and 7EH will be used within the formatting
commands. 
I'm not sure what LibLouis outputs, but it faces the same issues when paired
with a screen reader such as JAWS, NVDA, ORCA, VoiceOver, TalkBack, etc. 

Lloyd Rasmussen, Senior Staff Engineer
National Library Service for the Blind and Physically Handicapped, Library
of Congress
Washington, DC 20542   202-707-0535
http://www.loc.gov/nls/
The preceding opinions are my own and do not necessarily reflect those of
the Library of Congress, NLS.

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Hi, John.

I must be missing something here.  I read lots and lots of Braille,
including from Bard and Bookshare.  Indeed, Braille is my primary reading
medium and has been for something over fifty years.  I've never known Bard
BRF files to be in all uppercase--although I assume one would or should be
if the print it was converted from itself was uppercase.  What am I getting
wrong, if anything?

Thanks!

Al

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Hi Al,

It sounds like you are not a Braille reader. .brf files have all the letters
in upper-case. They also have special indicartors to indicate
capitalization. The upper-case is unpleasant to read on a Braille display,
because the dot 7 sticks up continuously. Converting everything to
lower-case loses nothing.

John

On Sun, Apr 21, 2019 at 08:22:40AM -0400, Linux for blind general discussion
wrote:
> Greetings!
> 
> I don't know that I'd use the program, but I understand the usefulness 
> of combining volumes and removing a lot of extra blank lines.  Why 
> does the program convert uppercase to lowercase, though?  (I'd 
> typically want to know what's capitalized and what's not in a book or
> magazine.)
> 
> Al
> 
> 
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> 
> Hello,
> 
> I have developed a program which makes books from the BARD website of 
> the National Library Service braille display friendly. It does the
following:
> 
> Combines all volumes into one file;
> Converts upper-case  to lower-case;
> Eliminates extra blanks at the ends of lines; Skips more than 1 blank
line.
> 
> The conversion program is written in C, so it should work oo Windows. 
> The command line for it uses the Linux cat command. I don't know of 
> anything equivalent on Windows.
> 
> Happy and blessed Easter,
> John
> 
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