amazon?

Sat Aug 24 19:40:25 UTC 2019

amazon accessibility has fallen down on the job or isn't being managed
properly.  Amazon accessibility may also be using a lynx modeling
simulator which is now low grade enough much of the keyboard
accessibility got sacrificed.

On Sat, 24 Aug 2019, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:

> Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2019 15:35:48
> From: Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list at redhat.com>
> To: Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list at redhat.com>
> Subject: Re: amazon?
>
> Public sites like Amazon are supposed to incorporate css to this end. In fact
> for a while, perhaps still?  there was a link on the main amazon site
> advertising that if one wants a more simplified  shopping experience one could
> go to the access page...which is now a disaster from a keyboard standpoint.
>
>
> On Sat, 24 Aug 2019, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
>
> > Personally, it would be nice if web designers would stop shoehorning
> > JavaScript and other rich web stuff into pages where the same thing
> > could be accomplished with plain, old HTML, would stop setting cookies
> > when they aren't needed, and would do a sanity check to ensure their
> > forms work properly with keyboard and tabbing.
> >
> > That said, a site-side fix to any problem only fixes it for that
> > specific site, while a browser-side fix could in theory fix it across
> > many different sites.
> >
> > Sadly, there doesn't seem to be much of a happy medium between
> > lumbering behemoths like Firefox and Chromium that weigh hundreds of
> > megabytes by the time you add up everything they need to run, and
> > lightweight html pagers like links, elinks, and lynx that are arguably
> > only good for accessing web 1.0 content.
> >
> > I'd love to ditch Firefox and the GUI in general, but for the sake of
> > my sanity, I don't think I could make the move without at least the
> > following features in a text web browser:
> >
> > Enough JavaScript/HTML5 support to display pages that use them to load
> > content, ideally disabled by default with a easy method of toggling it
> > on when needed or permanently allowing specified sites.
> >
> > Navigational hotkeys comparable to those provided when using a
> > Graphical browser with Orca, NVDA, or JAWS(seriously, some of these
> > are so handy I wonder how sighted people with mice(including my own
> > past self) make due without them.
> >
> > The option to turn multi-column web pages into single column pages or
> > to stretch the active cell in a table or element in a form to fit the
> > screen width.
> >
> > And my dream web browser would probably nearly replicate the
> > Firefox+Orca user experience minus the occasional sluggishness
> > introduced by the GUI and Python while having auto-converting all
> > clickables to something that can be activated with spacebar and/or
> > enter/return and adds in basic keyboard shortcuts for
> > temporarily/permanently allowing JavaScript/Cookies in the active
> > tab/from the site in the active tab(If starting with Firefox-like
> > keybindings, perhaps ctrl+J to toggle JavaScript and ctrl+K to toggle
> > cookies adding shift to change the permission permanently).
> >
> > Sadly, I don't know the first thing about coding a web browser, and
> > given how long the well known text browsers have been lagging in
> > regards to the most essential aspects of the modern web, I can only
> > hope their developers have their reasons for keeping their browsers in
> > the past and aren't just too lazy/don't know how to modernize their
> > projects.
> >
> > On 8/24/19, Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list at redhat.com>
> > wrote:
> >> Actually, sighted power users prefer text-based browsers when and where
> >> possible in order to avoid javascript and all that goes with it.  Those
> >> are decidedly not accessibility users in our sense but do want faster
> >> access than can be had using graphical browsers.
> >>
> >> On Fri, 23 Aug 2019, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
> >>
> >>> Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2019 20:32:51
> >>> From: Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list at redhat.com>
> >>> To: Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list at redhat.com>
> >>> Subject: Re: amazon?
> >>>
> >>> Well, are you implying I should be forced to run a graphical
> >>> screen-reader
> >>> such as Orca, so I can shop at Amazon? I suppose if there were something
> >>> much
> >>> better than Orca, I would certainly try it out. My Wife wants me to
> >>> try-and-shop at Amazon from a Chrome Book. I will experiment.
> >>> Chime
> >>>
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