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[Linux for blind general discussion]

Amazon is definitely aware of Linux. They have apps running on Android 
and even platforms that use Android as their OS. They support Linux in 
AWS including their own flavor of Linux. I'm sure their are some staff 
at Amazon who don't know about Linux, but that doesn't mean the company 
is unaware of or doesn't care about Linux.


BTW, there is still a legal question as to whether a web site which 
offers products or services to the public needs to be accessible. The 
ADA doesn't have companion guidelines on what it means for a site to be 
accessible and Domino's is going to court to claim that the ADA doesn't 
require them to make their site or apps accessible. I think the ADA does 
apply to public web sites, and I think Domino's will lose, but that 
doesn't mean it isn't still an open legal question.



On 8/24/19 2:11 PM, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
> 1. My comment regarding Linux is based on direct communications with 
> Amazon staff,  who have confessed not to have heard of it,and  who 
> have no direct contact with their so called accessibility team when 
> problems arise.
> 2. them properly compiled  elinks and links function with java script.
> 3.  Access is tied to interaction which is why even later editions of 
> lynx can manage some scripting, submit buttons for example.
>
> 4. since adaptive technology is often a substitution for the persons 
> eyes, hands, brain, and the like, what gives you the right to state 
> that technology choices are not tied to physical mandates?  How does 
> your stance differ from those who claim that access need not exist at 
> all,  or that all those sharing  a label are the same?
> 5. the names of access or other individuals at amazon confirming your 
> assumption here?  the legal stance is that if a site serves the 
> public, an individual can expect equal public access...which is why  
> alternative doors    are to exist  in the first place.
> How do you know what low graphics can or cannot do if you do not 
> follow their development?  This is about keyboard response which 
> exists in graphical  browsers like elinks and links.
>
>
>
> On Fri, 23 Aug 2019, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
>
>> I don't believe for a minute that the accessibility staff at Amazon 
>> has either forgotten or stopped caring about Linux accessibility. 
>> Realistically though, it is possible that they have stopped worrying 
>> about the very small number of people who still use text-based 
>> browsers and expect them to work for shopping, banking and other 
>> modern internet tasks. The thing is Linux accessibility in 2019 != 
>> lynx/links/elinks accessibility. In fact, this hasn't been the case 
>> since about 2008 or so
>> .
>> Unfortunately, text-based browsers have not kept up with the rest of 
>> the internet, and can't be expected to work well for most websites 
>> without a major overhaul, especially since they don't even support 
>> the latest HTML5 standards, nor do they support accessibility 
>> standards that have been in place for years. Even w3m doesn't fully 
>> support the w3c's own standards.
>>
>> Yes, I can see why some people may want these light-weight and fast 
>> browsers to work with Amazon, and yes, they should be made aware of 
>> the problems that people are having. But to say that Amazon doesn't 
>> care about Linux accessibility because their site doesn't work with a 
>> text-based browser is at best a gross exageration, and is at worst a 
>> grave disservice to those of us who use Linux and a screen reader at 
>> the same time.
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