Orca does not speak

[Linux for blind general discussion]

Well, it's a nit in any case. The semantic problem is triggered by
renaming Orca to "screen-reader," e.g. the following makes more sense:

orca --replace

However, the cleanup you note should simply be good practice regardless.
I see no way that "replace" suggests cleanup on restart, whereas
"restart" suggests no cleanup. That just doesn't make sense.


PS: Does a Ctrl-Alt-Del perform a replace? 

Best,

Janina

Linux for blind general discussion writes:
> Using the word "replace" for the switch is not poor English and is precise.
> If you really just wanted to restart Orca, you wouldn't need a command line
> switch at all. Here's what the "replace" switch does, taken from the Orca
> man page:
> 
> 
>        *--replace*
>               Replace a currently running*orca*  process.  By default, if*orca*  detects an  existing
>               *orca*   process  for  the  same  session, it will not start a new*orca*  process.  This
>               option will kill and cleanup after any existing*orca*  process and then start  a  new
>               *orca*  in its place.
> 
> On 1/14/19 7:41 AM, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
> > To your first question, yes I am unless that got changed in mate when I
> > wasn't looking.  As to your second question, I did not write that
> > software.
> > 
> > On Mon, 14 Jan 2019, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
> > 
> > > Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2019 08:36:46
> > > From: Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list at redhat.com>
> > > To: blinux-list at redhat.com
> > > Subject: Re: Orca does not speak
> > > 
> > > I guess you're telling me that mate installs an executable called
> > > screen-reader? A very questionable naming, imo, given that we have
> > > several in the Linux ecosystem.
> > > 
> > > And, if the -- need is to restart the screen-reader, why is the switch
> > > not --restart. Saying --replace is poor language use--poor English, to
> > > be more precise.
> > > 
> > > Linux for blind general discussion writes:
> > > > It forces a restart of screen-reader after screen-reader is shut down.
> > > > On
> > > > Sun, 13 Jan 2019, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > > Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2019 07:32:05
> > > > > From: Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list at redhat.com>
> > > > > To: Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list at redhat.com>
> > > > > Subject: Re: Orca does not speak
> > > > > 
> > > > > Interesting, What does:
> > > > > 
> > > > > screen-reader --replace
> > > > > 
> > > > > do? Please explain.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Linux for blind general discussion writes:
> > > > > > First install the mate-extra group.  Next after you start mate, hit f4
> > > > > > just once.  Then try running screen-reader --replace <enter> and see
> > > > > > what happens.  That f4 key toggles accessibility on and off so only hit
> > > > > > it once and that should help.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > On Fri, 11 Jan 2019, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2019 19:09:04
> > > > > > > From: Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list at redhat.com>
> > > > > > > To: blinux-list at redhat.com
> > > > > > > Subject: Orca does not speak
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Hello everyone,. I finally have maid installed on my arch system. It looks different than ubuntu Nate because it does not have many applications on it. The major problem I am having is that orca does not speak. Espeakup in the command line works but as soon as I go into Nate orca although turned on does not work. Anyone have ideas in how to fix it.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > An help would be appreciated.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Sincerely,
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Michael maslo
> > > > > > > 
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