Orca does not speak

Linux for blind general discussion blinux-list at redhat.com
Tue Jan 15 16:59:22 UTC 2019

System admin classes if done for linux or unix cover process ids along
with some system utilities to control them when that becomes necessary.
Whether or not you've had a system admin class in Linux, if you've
installed and have your own Linux system operating congratulations, you
just got a Linux system Administrator's Hat.  Most of those virtual hats
have amateur status on them and some novice and a few have professional

On Tue, 15 Jan 2019, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:

> Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2019 11:48:57
> From: Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list at redhat.com>
> To: blinux-list at redhat.com
> Subject: Re: Orca does not speak
> I actually hold a BS in Computer Science, though I confess none of my
> classes ever went into much detail regarding process IDs, not even the
> ones that dealt with Linux(granted, even the Linux-heavy classes
> seemed designed for students coming from a Windows background, and by
> the time I finished my general education studies and started focusing
> on my major, I had been a full-time Linux user for a few years.
> That said, while I can understand the reasoning, and might could even
> agree it's the most reasonable choice from an internal, developer
> facing perspective, I've been mostly approaching this discussion from
> an external, end-user perspective, the explanation requires delving
> into what should arguably be a black box from the end-user's side, and
> if the wording confuses people who are likely well-above average in
> being technologically literate, I feel bad for those who are learning
> to use Linux or a computer for the first time.
> I won't begrudge a developer, not even a FOSS developer, for
> optimizing their code for their own readibility and workflow,
> especially when they expect few external contributions even if they
> optimize for general readability, but I do think UI should strive for
> minimizing the amount of technical knowledge the end user needs in
> order to understand how to operate the software, especially for
> something with as general use as a screen reader.
> But meh, I feel like both sides are repeating themselves, neither is
> likely to change their opinion, and it's not likely I or anyone else
> will make a personal fork of orca to change a pair of two-character
> substrings in a single long switch. Wasn't even aware Orca had a
> command-line interface prior to this thread and I usually just fix
> issues with orca by either closing Firefox, which given my setup
> triggers termination of orca and my x-session, or if that fails,
> rebooting the computer, which is usually sufficient to fix minor
> problems or point out problems big enough to restore a backup of my
> root partition(though admittedly, that latter definitely isn't
> something I'd expect a beginner to be able to do and I manage such
> through bash scripts that save me from having to memorize the cryptic
> syntax of partimage).
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